From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 09:59:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E5D1065670 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:59:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dfr@rabson.org) Received: from mail2.rabson.org (mail2.rabson.org [83.222.226.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F322A8FC12 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:59:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from macpro.dyn.rabson.org (router.rabson.org [80.177.232.241]) by mail2.rabson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DD3A88A; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:59:49 +0000 (GMT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Doug Rabson In-Reply-To: <4B90D557.90504@lissyara.su> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:59:57 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <94301EB5-4D6C-4324-93D1-4D5E8660734B@rabson.org> References: <619814.37821.qm@web59102.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <4B90CF3E.2070508@lissyara.su> <4B90D557.90504@lissyara.su> To: Alex Keda X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: propose: all arch move into a separate dir X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 09:59:59 -0000 On 5 Mar 2010, at 09:56, Alex Keda wrote: > On 05.03.2010 12:45, Doug Rabson wrote: >> On 5 Mar 2010, at 09:30, Alex Keda wrote: >>=20 >> =20 >>> On 05.03.2010 12:17, Robert Watson wrote: >>> =20 >>>> consumers like Isilon, NetApp, Juniper, and many others >>>> =20 >>> thus, it is not 'Free', this managed by 'consumers like Isilon, = NetApp, Juniper, and many others'? >>> =20 >> It might be helpful to think of them as 'customers' who are using our = 'product' and paying for it by feeding back patches and employing = FreeBSD developers. Normal business practice doesn't include = intentionally making your customers' lives difficult - if you make a = habit of it they tend to go elsewhere. >> =20 > It seems to me, business and freedom - are mutually exclusive things. > or you can choose the path of development, or who pays - giver = commands to community. > no freedom there. Someone always pays. If this project didn't have sponsors like Isilon, = NetApp, Juniper, Yahoo, and many others it simply would not exist.