From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 04:47:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A959316A403 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 04:47:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ed.zwart@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EDE613C459 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 04:47:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ed.zwart@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so1747708nfc for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:47:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=s8YbFoX9fjrCpM7fCqyZ0AyWTSUjNny28tbQXUMPXRW8r7TzsjDBi3t+9NRRls8mhd0x6mmTe8jNzZfB76N1q2eokwvOiq1redzOmoHrVXrYN4Gb536cASVZuGce2bPwCkIYmrNmUX8oc38v/7dXqpnToXzIBjhUQotONeLlHv4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=f7Zz6SgnBxrSGximf4GV6REgn9BbaiDcQIA7JFNvXX5bB17mzIkykn8H5u9ot4puADSaBhGoayDg2adpMv0qdXggv0pTWDMLB3e+JmgkKqKnDzl27PGdrBUwxVe8gu/JT6jG37ze3Z/pKox9p2hovy5W2HPwh60C865zjXLRZ1g= Received: by 10.82.108.9 with SMTP id g9mr7480188buc.1173674843616; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.185.13 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6660f1280703112147p17ec0c6dq73f5167f58c96676@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:47:23 -0800 From: "Ed Zwart" To: "Jeffrey Goldberg" In-Reply-To: <8685CC04-17C7-4A25-AD0A-565311EE3001@goldmark.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6660f1280703110845w52b8babapf2814da0ac6424ae@mail.gmail.com> <56A5B5E4-5644-4C50-9346-5EC9A372C3DB@goldmark.org> <6660f1280703112036y747c92a2w674ea46625830044@mail.gmail.com> <8685CC04-17C7-4A25-AD0A-565311EE3001@goldmark.org> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: getting mail to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 04:47:25 -0000 Jeffrey, what you've suggested is what I've done. Thanks for the explanation! e. On 3/11/07, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > [mailed and posted] > > On Mar 11, 2007, at 10:36 PM, Ed Zwart wrote: > > > I'm still a little fuzzy on legal entries for hostname and domain. I > > set them to be mine, and it worked, and then for kicks, set it to > > google.com, and that worked too. I looked at the headers, and can see > > that the source can be traced back to my machine, but that still seems > > kind of easy to spoof. > > It is extremely easy to spoof, but google has taken steps to make it > easy for mail servers to detect if mail is spoofed. So if you send > mail from "google.com" without it coming from your network, than any > server making use of SPF (Sender Policy Framewokr) would immediately > identify it as a spoof, and will be blocked. > > To learn more about this system, see > > http://www.openspf.org/ > > > > Anyway, it's not something I'm overly worried > > about; I'm just not clear on what I SHOULD be using for hostname and > > domain. > > Well, what is a hostname for the machine that is sending the mail. > Since you are now going through your ISPs mailserver, it doesn't need > to be a hostname that can be looked up. So something like > > mailout.my.dom.ain > > should do fine. Use your real domain for the my.dom.ain part. The > more correct information you provide, the less mail from your system > will look like spam. But even "localhost.local" would be OK (though a > useful domain name would be better). Using "google.com" would make it > look like you are up to no good. > > -j > > > > > -- > Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ > >