From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 10:19:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B336106564A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:19:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (lefty.soaustin.net [66.135.55.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E46A8FC14 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:19:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id D37E08C07D; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 04:19:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 04:19:46 -0600 From: Mark Linimon To: Alex Keda Message-ID: <20100305101946.GA16422@lonesome.com> References: <619814.37821.qm@web59102.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <4B90CF3E.2070508@lissyara.su> <4B90D557.90504@lissyara.su> <94301EB5-4D6C-4324-93D1-4D5E8660734B@rabson.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B90CF3E.2070508@lissyara.su> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: propose: all arch move into a separate dir X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 10:19:47 -0000 On 5 Mar 2010, at 09:56, Alex Keda wrote: > thus, it is not 'Free', this managed by 'consumers like Isilon, NetApp, > Juniper, and many others'? It isn't managed by them whatsoever. FreeBSD is a cooperative anarchy, driven by working code and rough consensus. That's what controls the checkins. However, FreeBSD also exists as part of a larger community. If there's no compelling reason to make the work of some of those in that community more difficult, why should we do so? Let's take a look at the current data in GNATS: $ showwithtag patch | wc -l 1880 To reiterate, that's nearly two thousand PRs with patches. (I don't have statistics for how many of those relate to arch-specific areas of the codebase, however.) Finally, IMVHO, if you want an operating system where philosophical purity overrides all practical concerns, you're going to be better off with something such as OpenBSD or Debian. mcl