From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 19 14:17:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73AAD106567B for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:17:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE9948FC21 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:17:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 81897 invoked by uid 89); 19 Mar 2009 14:22:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.114?) (steve@ibctech.ca@::ffff:208.70.104.100) by pearl.ibctech.ca with ESMTPA; 19 Mar 2009 14:22:41 -0000 Message-ID: <49C253FE.3010408@ibctech.ca> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:17:34 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Spekreijse References: <153046.19925.qm@web63901.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <907077794.20090317173752@homelink.ru> <49C05E35.8070609@ibctech.ca> <001501c9a795$07058de0$1510a9a0$@com> <49C1C3D0.5060304@neely.cx> <5F9EF08A583352985E262800@tok> <49C24561.5090301@spekreijse.net> In-Reply-To: <49C24561.5090301@spekreijse.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Christian Meutes , isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ISPs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:17:46 -0000 Peter Spekreijse wrote: > > Hi, > > >> I guess you guys do this especially for server services e.g. hosting >> stuff >> and not really for routing (BGP, OSPF/ISIS etc.), right? > > > We do use it for routing, using FreeBSD, booting from flash, running > completely in RAM. We have created a solid state BGP/OSPF router with > FreeBSD. Our border routers run Quagga (bgp and ospf) but we are in the > process of moving to OpenBGPD / OpenOSPFD. Our internal routers already > use OpenOSPFD. We are using Network Appliances from portwell as hardware > (8 * 1 Gbit/sec ethernet). We're in process of testing other appliances. We do the exact same thing, some of our boxes boot from USB thumb stick. What I love about this setup, is that one can clone the flash memory, and have an immediate backup. Not only that, you can boot up any USB bootable hardware and have an instantaneous lab box that replicates the production routers. Test upgrades, major changes, and them roll them back into the production image. Out of curiosity, why are you moving to Open*? Steve