From owner-freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Thu Oct 22 19:59:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-embedded@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3556AA1CBA6; Thu, 22 Oct 2015 19:59:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x236.google.com (mail-io0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0021A1E8C; Thu, 22 Oct 2015 19:59:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: by iofz202 with SMTP id z202so103182720iof.2; Thu, 22 Oct 2015 12:59:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Un4VM0s78n5cpsV9zKNHV+DXWnldikF+vxhsmDAln+0=; b=HNkziM7o1t/QGfVukuJjN9QQ8gNDXiJnBWN7Y3gHFeNY3vsQOFl/wmSXExbvTARGW6 YH07RxxmZLB0eESvHIDttosPEwMm8q+WrdJbRpuRkPDKfCSgFZEvJlanQuOJ7tSW/O1W YLof2pvJq7R5SByPvc60aZlEN8u8DWynQxYKk8K8kDDWanJiVfLUYcv0MGDqacEhILqy +ICQOYZeczGKuRDh5rFet89TmcoOB+XpIt1JC7tFeIWpCOPLp95hswbOnJjBmJvOLYOd cwW9JNBOymvQGTpyyaB6cz5m1zOKyCEE5Rf5W9/1SWQifXjOAm9TPBcPCboQtP/vWZ1m sN/Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.3.72 with SMTP id 69mr17432842iod.75.1445543986336; Thu, 22 Oct 2015 12:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.66 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Oct 2015 12:59:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20151022195740.GA65715@funkthat.com> References: <2EB47812-4744-48B5-BEBF-B2074D9EEA8F@jnielsen.net> <8B2138DA-A660-413F-B25A-D99398D587C3@jnielsen.net> <20151022195740.GA65715@funkthat.com> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 12:59:46 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: looking for suggestions for a small router/appliance board/SoC From: Adrian Chadd To: John-Mark Gurney Cc: John Nielsen , "freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 19:59:47 -0000 If someone's interested in finishing off the vertana work then let's have a chat with Rui and see if he's interested in a short term contract or something. -a On 22 October 2015 at 12:57, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > John Nielsen wrote this message on Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 13:48 -0600: >> On Oct 22, 2015, at 12:00 PM, Adrian Chadd wrot= e: >> >> > On 22 October 2015 at 10:57, John Nielsen wrote: >> >> I???m working on a proof-of-concept for a kind of networking swiss ar= my knife. Can anyone suggest a board that meets the following requirements?= CPU arch doesn???t matter as long as it will run FreeBSD (Atom, ARM, MIPS,= etc). >> >> >> >> - Small form factor (SoC, probably) >> >> - Can support at least 2 802.11a/b/g/n adapters, prefer 3 (any combi= nation of chip-integrated and mini PCI-e slots. Prefer to avoid USB if poss= ible) >> >> - Has or supports at least 2 1GbE ports. Prefer 3-5 ports with switc= hing functionality >> >> - Storage not super constrained. Built-in storage (if any) can be sm= all (which I???m arbitrarily defining as less than 128MB) if there is also = an SD card slot or similar. USB storage will do in a pinch. >> >> - Has at least 2 free USB ports after meeting previous requirements >> >> - Serial port or header (or GPIO pins that can be used as one? Not t= oo familiar with that) >> >> - Low power consumption (within reason taking the above into account= ) >> >> - Low cost (again, within reason) >> >> >> >> I may just start with a PC Engines apu1d, but if there are boards tha= t are smaller, cheaper, have lower power requirements and/or have integrate= d wifi or switch capabilities I???d like to look in to them as well. >> >> >> >> I know that might be asking a lot, so I???m also open to any suggesti= ons that are most of the way there. Thanks! >> >> > The PC engines boards are your best bet to begin with. There's updated >> > ARM hardware from Gateworks but I don't recall if we ever got a port >> > fully working on it. >> >> Thanks for the pointer. Good to know the Avila boards boot. A Ventana bo= ard plus one or more expansion modules actually looks very versatile and ca= pable of meeting all my requirements (except maybe cost :). The Laguna boar= ds also look interesting, though probably not quite versatile enough for th= is particular project. Can anyone jog Adrian???s memory on the status of Fr= eeBSD on either of those Gateworks board families? > > I know that the AVILA boards work fine: > FreeBSD avila.funkthat.com 11.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT #3 r283010M:= Sun May 17 10:16:08 PDT 2015 jmg@carbon.funkthat.com:/a/obj/arm.armeb/= a/home/jmg/FreeBSD.svn/HEAD/sys/AVILA arm > > I can't find info on the Laguna boards... > > There is a wiki page on that status of the Ventana board: > https://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/arm/Ventana > > But, the PCI slots and second gige aren't supported according to that > page... > > So, if you're willing to spend as much money on a Ventana board, > I'd recommend going w/ the Netgate RCC-VE 4860... It has much faster > CPU, tons more memory and get better support by being an amd64 based > platform... > > -- > John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 > > "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not."