From owner-svn-doc-all@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 22 01:59:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-doc-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF24A2B for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 01:59:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-ia0-f182.google.com (mail-ia0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79C898FC13 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 01:59:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f182.google.com with SMTP id x2so6929028iad.13 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 17:59:41 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=Mk1N8hp9VKHN0ZTfQj7vLbcx6Ri1EOGVugC8o497hkw=; b=pK5naqjwaqMWikpcVZRXzs7MGP6nYbZQvHYI9jWZwjFjpp/iA1djGE+re9M0sh35dz nRzNQaIBEtNRbE2kdrMpjcDVYXad/HBEN7qvA0zncbF+CohWOZj2joA5LOnqSE4irtCQ OCglKbYHRomGHuSKI1BD7NtBJ9r9RqekPoeKXkiO7Ruq/mHsOiXOsSUHmyrlNyw8/jTf dEtQpr+NyDWezDKMXxdBkniNoxYhx4Bo3/3ZPVHljpi//xZ3DZBLZWrn2HerUFRqBhDo vPWdCPpmERYpQCuaem/QCA/cjmRd0AVy5NSliHy/M4N/39IVYoDWZfmAOrKWtAioT44S dB9A== Received: by 10.50.140.104 with SMTP id rf8mr1553835igb.40.1353549581795; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 17:59:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from 53.imp.bsdimp.com (50-78-194-198-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. [50.78.194.198]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bh3sm1121100igc.0.2012.11.21.17.59.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 21 Nov 2012 17:59:40 -0800 (PST) Sender: Warner Losh Subject: Re: svn commit: r40117 - in head/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook: kernelbuild policies tools Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:59:37 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <201211211357.qALDvDsP064264@svn.freebsd.org> To: Benjamin Kaduk X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkyxnyfJbd6N2jFReEsdtnapGs4Vk7UW8gS+VKuJO7faK9V8r/Eu4F4cdZHeivBdcu9MuKg Cc: svn-doc-head@freebsd.org, svn-doc-all@freebsd.org, doc-committers@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: svn-doc-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire doc trees \(except for " user" , " projects" , and " translations" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 01:59:42 -0000 On Nov 21, 2012, at 6:33 PM, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > On Wed, 21 Nov 2012, Eitan Adler wrote: >=20 >> On 21 November 2012 13:14, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: >>> This seems to remove the last documentation of manually invoking = config(8) >>> to build a kernel, which seems worthy of explicit mention, and = perhaps >>> broader discussion. >>=20 >> This should probably be documented in config(1) or some other "how = the > (config(8)) >> build process works" document. So far as I could tell, the old = method >> should be considered an implementation detail, not an alternative. >=20 > The old method does not require building a toolchain or buildenv, if I = remember correctly. No, it does not. Nor does it require anything more than is on the = system right now. Often, this is sufficient. Sometimes it isn't. The = buildkernel version was done to keep people from shooting themselves... Warner >> That said I agree this probably deserves some broader consideration, >> so perhaps doc@ is the best place to discuss? Or would a developer >> focussed ML like hackers@ be better? >=20 > I think hackers would be better. >=20 > -Ben