From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 17 00:18:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A218016A420 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:18:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rick@kiwi-computer.com) Received: from kiwi-computer.com (keira.kiwi-computer.com [63.224.10.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 230F113C45B for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:18:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rick@kiwi-computer.com) Received: (qmail 55027 invoked by uid 2001); 17 Jan 2008 00:18:07 -0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:18:07 -0600 From: "Rick C. Petty" To: Jeffrey Hutzelman Message-ID: <20080117001807.GB54906@keira.kiwi-computer.com> References: <18CC5A4A2AC36D7FF57615EE@ganymede.hub.org> <478AF6BC.8050604@highperformance.net> <20080114142124.Y55696@fledge.watson.org> <876FB8E38251C27B14CCCA29@atlantis.pc.cs.cmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <876FB8E38251C27B14CCCA29@atlantis.pc.cs.cmu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: rra@stanford.edu, port-freebsd@openafs.org, freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org, Robert Watson , matt@linuxbox.com, freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.org, "Jason C. Wells" , openafs-devel@openafs.org Subject: Re: [OpenAFS-devel] Re: AFS ... or equivalent ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: rick-freebsd@kiwi-computer.com List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:18:08 -0000 *** Please ignore my previous unedited response *** > --On Monday, January 14, 2008 02:23:47 PM +0000 Robert Watson > wrote: > > >I'd like very much to get at least the kernel parts of an AFS client into > >the base system. I'm not sure how compatible the AFS client is with FreeBSD VFS. I looked into doing this at one time, but getting Arla to work was a much shorter path. I certainly would welcome any effort; it would give admins a choice between AFS clients. I believe the problem in the past with AFS clients has been the lack of developer time committed to maintaining the clients in the long term. Certainly it doesn't help to have major VFS rework so often as FreeBSD has had... I submitted numerous patches to Arla just to get it to compile on FreeBSD 6.x, and now we're about to release 7.0 and Arla just recently works on 6. It would also help if there was documentation on how to migrate code away from deprecated VFS calls. IIRC, the 5.x/6.0 VFS changes broke a lot of things and yet I still can't find any documentation aside from reading the diffs and guesswork. -- Rick C. Petty