From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Feb 18 4:45: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A5037B400 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 04:44:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish ([10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g1ICirr97423; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 13:44:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <010101c1b87a$10707190$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Terry Lambert" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <20020217143343.41758.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com> <20020217163045.GB90303@voi.aagh.net> <3C703089.AD03554B@mindspring.com> <018501c1b816$2a9cb970$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3C705564.E1EA2FDA@mindspring.com> <001c01c1b859$6ee18c80$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3C70E8B2.168D9F56@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 13:44:52 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Terry writes: > This is your unbacked opinion, and it runs > contrary to market opinion. Most of the market is running Apache or IIS, as far as I know, so it would seem that market opinion favors HTTP servers running as user processes, not as part of the kernel. > This is also your opinion. We are all expressing opinions here. I take that for granted, whereas you seem to feel compelled to point it out. > Effeciency is not measured soley in number of > keystrokes -- though being efficient will not > necessarily mean that the number of keystrokes > increase. Be that as it may, simple text interfaces are often more efficient than graphic user interfaces, for applications that do not have specific graphic requirements. One reason why I prefer Apache to IIS is that I can configure everything in a text file on Apache. > It is not some cosmic coincidence that employers > ask for experience with Microsoft products. They don't ask for that if they are running UNIX. > I really think that what you need is to visit > the usability lab of a large company to see > HCI testing over a period of several iterations, > so you can understand. Reading about it or doing it isn't good enough? > That's your taste, which is atypical, given > that you are an atypical user. What makes me atypical? > Your response here is a bit unsupportable, > since it was your implication of "must". Some products _must_ be managed that way. IIS requires either a Web-based interface or a GUI interface. I'm not aware of any text interface to the product. > More code does not necessarily equal instant > instability, particularly in the BSD camps. All else being equal, more code equals more instability. > I think you are reading from the GNU HURD > Bible here, or at least from the microkernel > Bible. I don't read the Bible. > For example? An OS written for his purposes. > What are the top two dedicated web servers > running on something other than a general-purpose > OS which you would suggest using, in this > circumstance? I'm not familiar with any. What are they? > The "danger" is, once again, only in your > opinion. You seem to wish to imply that my statements are opinions, whereas yours are not. But we are both stating opinions, and neither of us substantiates them any better than the other. There is no point in telling me that I am expressing opinions, as I already know this. And there is nothing to be gained by refraining from making the same acknowledgement with respect to your own statements, because I already know that you are expressing opinions, too. So what is your real purpose? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message