From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 3 14:44:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B8316A419 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2008 14:44:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdwicker@gmail.com) Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com (qb-out-0506.google.com [72.14.204.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D40FE13C46E for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2008 14:44:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdwicker@gmail.com) Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id a10so164008qbd.7 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 06:44:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=m2ILofwaaXIfv0MPpQe0VAVRPToAGuGHMzrwbP3aUFA=; b=RMysDFQcUffasvEdrWBWIZO04EzV2536gEsronBSEXMZVXocmggOK+orX3LOZ3FFC/U1KQSQRg0w6ebyz1wJDHX/JPfzuQHQWXl7RIPuxDF6wfE+jxnTCSN0ieBLTJ3gAyRGYjTOc30z5X2W90HCL0Qm1k8YT2JzB67Z2Re//1U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=sVpmeHVuGU6DtAqTJ55dfIS3+cIcdo301jpfixuZHaV5eHm/aO+zmxgVDNBS3V+aWQE/tUq7UnpOfKbVrhMr9exINF/94Pz7BFTNrDiOOzy9DubqI0DI/9zEPMWRocL9vv64D5nhjTWIUYrI2xdbL/4hJnzW/YIjln1Tb/FaxMc= Received: by 10.64.196.9 with SMTP id t9mr32360470qbf.78.1199370507172; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 06:28:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.215.7 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Jan 2008 06:28:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2d19405f0801030628s28ed3269ic8942b8296db70ee@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 06:28:27 -0800 From: "FreeBSD WickerBill" To: "Gary Smithe" In-Reply-To: <10f7864f0801021050n587e4a52o6c822fd5c31574ef@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <10f7864f0712311010x2497409ava350991ccebf3ae2@mail.gmail.com> <10f7864f0801021050n587e4a52o6c822fd5c31574ef@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: corporate backers of freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:44:37 -0000 Check out the BSDMall - iXSystems: http://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm/community.html?id=QcQ8NEb5&mv_arg=mv_arg&mv_pc=3 They provide all you are looking for in both products and support of the community. On Jan 2, 2008 10:50 AM, Gary Smithe wrote: > On Jan 2, 2008 4:56 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Gary Smithe > > > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 10:11 AM > > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > Subject: corporate backers of freebsd > > > > > > > > > Good Day All and Happy New Year, > > > > > > I'm not looking to incite anyone, but here comes a BSD vs Linux > > > question. Yes, I tried searching the archives and found nothing. > > > > > > I used FreeBSD back in 2000 for a few firewalls, but due to certain > > > influences I switched to Linux after a couple of years. > > > > > > I'm interested in getting back to the BSD's but have just one big > concern. > > > > > > As most users Unix and it's clones, I prefer the "free as in beer" > > > licensing model, but want to know that someone else is paying the big > > > bills. > > > > > > In short, here's my question: > > > > > > Canonical, RedHat, IBM, Novell, and a slew of others are funding / > > > supporting Linux development and pushing some of that development into > > > the free community, so that all can benefit from full-time developers > > > and the money that supports them. > > > > > > I've seen where Cisco and Juniper are using FreeBSD, and assuming > > > there are other big names, do they directly fund or contribute to the > > > community? > > > > > > > Gary, > > > > FreeBSD USED TO HAVE a single large corporate sponsor. Walnut Creek. > > Well, while the upside of this is that you have a pot of money that > > can be used to fund advertising ventures, fund a position to act as > > the "public" face of the project, etc. the downside is that this ties > > the project to the fortunes of that big money pot. > > > > When Walnut Creek went downhill it caused a LOT of people who were > > using FreeBSD very much consternation. > > > > This is why today the project basically operates as a completely > > distributed project. > > > > You might as well ask who the corporate sponsor of the Gnutella > > network is. Nobody, and Everybody. Yet, that network carries > > billions of bytes of pirat... I mean, valuable video data, and is > > dependended on by many bootleggers.. I mean enterprenuers. ;-) > > > > People look at Linux and say "how great it is that Linux has RedHat > > to make Linux look "legitimate" to the corporate world. They forget > > that as RedHat is a corporation, it is under a mandate to make a > > profit every year. Well, what happens if the day ever comes that > > RedHat starts losing money? Don't you think that people will suddenly > > start thinking that Linux has run out of steam? I do. > > > > There is no single corporation that is ever guarenteed to exist > > forever, last forever, and remain profitable forever. History is > > littered with large, rich companies that people once upon a time > > thought would never ever go out of business - yet they did anyway. > > > > By contrast, MOVEMENTS in history NEVER run out of steam. There are > > still, today, billions of people dumping billions of dollars every year > > into the Catholic Church - despite it's sordid history and current > > coverups of pedophiles - and that particular religious movement has been > > around more than 2000 years. > > > > We want to keep FreeBSD operating as a movement. As long as 1 person > > still believes and maintains it, it won't die. No matter how profitable > > or unprofitable it is to run. > > > > Ted > > > > > > > Thank you all for the responses. I've tried to track down ways to > contribute funds, as my programming skills are just above that of an > intoxicated monkey. > > I found the FreeBSD foundation, which seems like the best place to start. > > I can't find, however, that any book, T-Shirt, or CD purchase from any > vendor (including BSDmall) will send money back to the project. > > I understand there is value in evangelism from promoting FreeBSD via > T-Shrits, stickers etc., as well as showing the profitability of books > on BSD related topics to publishers (like No Starch). > > Have I missed an avenue of getting monetary support to FreeBSD? > > Thanks again. > > GS > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- --I'm not 'renting' my OS--