From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 27 16:00:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E20A16A4CE for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 16:00:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D965543D1D for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 16:00:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend3.messagingengine.com (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0531FC4741A for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 11:00:49 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: 4VZ5Xy3iuyTMzRqmjoUzDA 1104163247 Received: from gumby.localhost (dsl-80-41-19-232.access.uk.tiscali.com [80.41.19.232]) by frontend3.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06CF8287A2 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 11:00:45 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 16:00:45 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20041226212114.K81983@trhj.homeunix.net> In-Reply-To: <20041226212114.K81983@trhj.homeunix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412271600.45748.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: 5.3: want to install XFree86 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 16:00:50 -0000 On Monday 27 December 2004 05:31, Theodore D. Sternberg wrote: > I've had it with Xorg and would like to go back to XFree86. > Unfortunately, when I go to /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4 and type "make", it > doesn't do anything; it just gives me this message... > > ===> XFree86-4.4.0_1,1 is part of XFree86-4. > > and exits. > > XFree86 was giving me everything I needed, back under FreeBSD 5.1. Xorg, > in contrast, is one huge hassle. "Xorg -config" produces an xorg.conf.new > file that doesn't work (I have ATI Rage 128). Then, reading some of the > traffic on this mailing list I see talk about preloading AGP and ATI from > /boot/loaders.conf, and I know I'd be getting in way too deep if I did > that. > > To further confirm my ignorance, I'll ask this: what exactly is Xorg? Is > it just a different X server (and associated configuration tools)? Or is > it something more broad-based than that? As I understand it there was a difference of opinion about how xfree86 development should be run, which resulted in the xorg splitting-off. Many open source OSs have gone with xorg because of it's license, and because it promises a faster pace of development. It's probably in your interest to make it work, because as the two start to diverge it will likely be xfree86 users that have the most hassle. > If I succeed in building an XFree86 server, can I just make the > appropriate symlink -- /usr/X11R6/bin/X --, install my old XFree86.conf > file in /etc/X11, and run with that? Or is it going to be more > complicated? > Check back through UPDATING; there were instructions for migrating xfree86 to xorg which might be reversible if your xorg isn't too recent. There are instructions there too for setting the appropriate environmental variables for making the system use a non-default X.