From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 12 12:42:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6362E503 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 12:42:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B7712F7D for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 12:42:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.45]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3445A2237C for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 08:37:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 12 Jul 2014 08:37:51 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.net; h= message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mesmtp; bh=g6uQ2I8x7tTrOFIdpEHSC6jj634=; b=BdZB01Ldaa7emsTMXkA7Mu4BEHPs /bLKtFrosBwJEOPRylASSmUTbSqGdCXXdluPH1ua47G+kwj2BtNR5/F7HET/Q4Zc eFl8jw0cLXmemNmqfyWBo4pJN+aTfMK7rIkJ2jU/zf9ze3MPiOZkYk7KwbFxsn7y nbMHsY2U3smLdyQ= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=smtpout; bh=g6uQ2I8x7tTrOFIdpEHSC6 jj634=; b=K/rcF0Rvx3K+jynPAKZjJsmw4wdA++KXNldFJqaln8STq1Gh+KLYnt gNEWCWJ3O0c9t8KqZQ9UgpmgJNEPXsQYjAXRMAMR+ND3aS5LevTPC7A8k9otPmFt /Yz0gI6ra3u0qHc5xx5ElgdRm7DFsHyZkbPmtwt4aJgYobil/oZuo= X-Sasl-enc: GpYY1oOG/1jCRCoTGIrOWT9AOdWDPXOfePWQTGQf0nsl 1405168670 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (unknown [31.53.7.191]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 58C02C00005; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 08:37:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <53C12C1D.8080101@fastmail.net> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 13:37:49 +0100 From: Bruce Simpson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce Evans , David Chisnall Subject: Re: svn commit: r268566 - head/usr.bin/users References: <201407120747.s6C7lpYE020200@svn.freebsd.org> <20140712195452.N3279@besplex.bde.org> In-Reply-To: <20140712195452.N3279@besplex.bde.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 12:42:59 -0000 On 12/07/2014 12:34, Bruce Evans wrote: > > This joke is bad. The C++ version is worse in every way. I concur with everything you have said in your message. Moral of story: it is very, very easy to introduce bloat using C++, and using a higher level language does not automatically lead to better code quality.