From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 12 21:14:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E39852E2; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 21:14:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from monday.kientzle.com (99-115-135-74.uvs.sntcca.sbcglobal.net [99.115.135.74]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4F1124A8; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 21:14:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from root@localhost) by monday.kientzle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) id s6CLEDcg089348; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 21:14:13 GMT (envelope-from tim@kientzle.com) Received: from [192.168.2.101] (192.168.1.66 [192.168.1.66]) by kientzle.com with SMTP id havx2t29nj59trgxhgtuebutv2; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 21:14:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tim@kientzle.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: svn commit: r268566 - head/usr.bin/users From: Tim Kientzle In-Reply-To: <1405179083.91430.14.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 14:14:13 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <201407120747.s6C7lpYE020200@svn.freebsd.org> <20140712195452.N3279@besplex.bde.org> <53C12C1D.8080101@fastmail.net> <20140712132705.GA45964@FreeBSD.org> <1405179083.91430.14.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> To: Ian Lepore X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Cc: Alexey Dokuchaev , src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, David Chisnall , Bruce Simpson , Bruce Evans , svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 21:14:20 -0000 On Jul 12, 2014, at 8:31 AM, Ian Lepore wrote: > It is in no way established that any kind of "mess" exists. All we have > is some people who appear to hate C++ expressing their opinions about > how they hate C++. All the whining about how many more bytes the > compiled code is or many milliseconds something takes to compile don't > add up to any actual problem. Some people have good reason to care about the size of the compiled code. (Witness Adrian's complaints a couple days ago about disk and memory usage for libreadline.) Tim