From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 12:18:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 862B0106566C; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:18:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from smtp.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49FFE8FC17; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:18:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [84.49.246.2]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 373F21FFC22; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:18:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C444884498; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:18:03 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: Alexander Motin References: <4B55D9D4.1000008@FreeBSD.org> <823F6536-32A7-4BC6-9C6A-C84865A38458@samsco.org> <4B570B4C.9000203@jrv.org> <4B69817B.8090706@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:18:03 +0100 In-Reply-To: <4B69817B.8090706@FreeBSD.org> (Alexander Motin's message of "Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:00:27 +0200") Message-ID: <86hbov3qtg.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.95 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD-Current , "James R. Van Artsdalen" Subject: Re: Pack of CAM improvements X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 12:18:05 -0000 Alexander Motin writes: > I've just added Power Up In Stand-by (PUIS) feature support into CAM > ATA in HEAD. It is one of the ways to implement staggered spin-up for > ATA devices. Now CAM will spin-up no more then 4 of such devices at a > time. Hmm, how does that work? Doesn't the BIOS spin the disks up long before the kernel even loads? Can you set a flag on the disk to tell it not to? This is a very real issue for me. I have a file server that can't cold boot because the disks take too long to spin up and / or the PSU can't deliver enough power to spin them all up at the same time. I would love to be able to delay spinning up each disk until it's actually needed (i.e. /etc/rc.d/zfs start). DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no