From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Aug 26 01:25:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA26964 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 01:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (ascend.star-gate.com [204.188.121.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA26956 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 01:25:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA01670; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 01:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199608260824.BAA01670@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Michael Hancock cc: Doug Wellington , FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: JDK 1.02 In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 26 Aug 1996 09:16:16 +0900." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 01:24:02 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Michael Hancock : > On Sat, 24 Aug 1996, Doug Wellington wrote: > > > those three languages... So, my point is, Java isn't anything special, > > it's just neutered C++, Perl, Python and TCL... We already have all these > > other tools, they're stable and established, and free! I think that what attracts people to Java is not the language rather the cool things you can do with java on the web and also because it runs on win95 -- its resemblance to C++ is definitly a win . tcl got ported to win95 however I think that java is in better shape on win95 than tcl. tcl is okay however its lack of higher structures makes it a pain if you don't resort to itcl or one of the "object-oriented" packages for tcl. About three years ago , tcl could have rule the Net by way of "smart-agents" (safe-tcl + plus some extensions) . Is just that no one really felt like tackling the project. Both tcl/tk and java have made it a whole easier to create portable graphic apps : pull down windows , displaying images , etc... Hope that I make sense 8) Cheers, Amancio