From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 19 01:19:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D1B016A47D for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:19:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zionicman@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6246A43D4C for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:19:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zionicman@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i31so738420wxd for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:19:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=nOXqSsGDqUAqHfrS7qWzRt1Vl7H9l4z5cINgtwi8jsb2OK+VG7UsHJo4cVtj8fLwbOd2LUuoS5qHVbF4ggcBZLohRiR4+eOiuqG6FmxApu7aQp9jMISaCWQ4+c6GLCbDCpF4t8GLaB1mjWKuOrZ48btiAKMcu60DlSfkHhqRve0= Received: by 10.70.19.6 with SMTP id 6mr7623841wxs; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.111.17 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:19:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:19:39 -0400 From: "David Hoffman" To: "Dennis Olvany" In-Reply-To: <4495F9A1.8040407@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4495F9A1.8040407@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: ingrid@cityscope.net, thisdayislong , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, freebsd-user-groups@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:19:45 -0000 On 6/18/06, Dennis Olvany wrote: > > I had a look at http://www.houfug.org/help/install_freebsd.htm and I am > afraid that you will find this article is not eligible for copyright. It > constitutes neither an artistic nor literary work. The article conveys > only facts and facts are not eligible for copyright. > I'm afraid you're incorrect. The work in question is indeed copyrightable under the Berne Convention, which many countries have ratified, including the United States, where the content is hosted. The United States, as well as many other countries, also have national laws which allow this work to be copyrighted. It's also important to note that HouFUG clearly believes the work can be copyrighted, since they have included a copyright notice on the page. This implies tremendous bad faith: regardless of whether or not the article is copyrightable (it is), they have removed any reference to the true owner and have claimed it as their own. This is not acceptable behaviour.