From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 15:38:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7786F106566B; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:38:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dimitry@andric.com) Received: from tensor.andric.com (cl-327.ede-01.nl.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:7b8:2ff:146::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381168FC18; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:38:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2001:7b8:3a7:0:a516:7480:bf2e:1308] (unknown [IPv6:2001:7b8:3a7:0:a516:7480:bf2e:1308]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tensor.andric.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5069E5C43; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:38:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B912562.6060500@andric.com> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:38:10 +0100 From: Dimitry Andric User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.2; en-US; rv:1.9.2.2pre) Gecko/20100302 Lanikai/3.1b1pre MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?RGFnLUVybGluZyBTbcO4cmdyYXY=?= References: <4B55D9D4.1000008@FreeBSD.org> <823F6536-32A7-4BC6-9C6A-C84865A38458@samsco.org> <4B570B4C.9000203@jrv.org> <4B69817B.8090706@FreeBSD.org> <86hbov3qtg.fsf@ds4.des.no> In-Reply-To: <86hbov3qtg.fsf@ds4.des.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Alexander Motin , FreeBSD-Current , "James R. Van Artsdalen" Subject: Re: Pack of CAM improvements X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:38:12 -0000 On 2010-03-05 13:18, Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav wrote: > Hmm, how does that work? Doesn't the BIOS spin the disks up long befor= e > the kernel even loads? Can you set a flag on the disk to tell it not > to? A jumper (marked PM2 on WD disks; no idea for other brands). From Wikipedia: "[PUIS] can usually be enabled by a jumper shunt on the drive but can be configured by other means (configuration sector) using manufacturer specific tools." and: "PUIS requires corresponding BIOS support. If [PUIS] is enabled on the drive but not supported by the BIOS, the drive will not be detected by the system or detected as zero in size. PUIS typically only supported on RAID Controllers." I have an Areca RAID card that indeed has this capability. It can also spin up the disks in staggered fashion, with a selectable interval.