From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 24 10:46:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (ns.mt.sri.com [206.127.79.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF3E14CD5 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 10:46:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA20615; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 11:45:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA27853; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 11:45:25 -0600 Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 11:45:25 -0600 Message-Id: <199909241745.LAA27853@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: gary@eyelab.psy.msu.edu (Gary Schrock), current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: On hub.freebsd.org refusing to talk to dialups In-Reply-To: <199909241735.KAA03460@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> References: <4.2.0.58.19990924130644.00a84dd0@eyelab.msu.edu> <199909241735.KAA03460@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > would immediately unsubscribe to any isp that decided this was acceptable > > behavior on their part. I agree. > Your work also has a serious security concern if it allows this you to > directly attatch to it's port 25. No it doesn't, but you do bring up another good point why not to use the ISP's mail server. Security. I don't want email to bounce on your box and potentially give the ISP's postmaster information they shouldn't be having. (Including email about us switching ISP's because we hate their email policy. :) Yes, our ISP *could* sniff packets are read our email if they wanted, but it would be a breach of contract for them to do so. Basically, I think not allowing ISP's to allow the Dialup lines to forward email as a good thing, but for them to limit was businesses do with their IP traffic is simply too big brother'ish, no matter what their contract states. I'm as much at risk (or more) from spammers that abuse my mail host as they are, so it behooves me to setup my mail machine (and network) to 'Do The Right Thing'. Rather than ISP's blocking email, they should instead be working with their customers to provide them with expertise on how to setup a working/usable mail server. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message