From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jun 11 07:55:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA01496 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 07:55:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA01071; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 07:53:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karl@Mars.mcs.net) Received: from Mars.mcs.net (karl@Mars.mcs.net [192.160.127.85]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with ESMTP id JAA01166; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:53:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from karl@localhost) by Mars.mcs.net (8.8.7/8.8.2) id JAA07041; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:53:02 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19980611095302.56559@mcs.net> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:53:02 -0500 From: Karl Denninger To: Herb Peyerl Cc: core@FreeBSD.ORG, core@netbsd.org, cgd@netbsd.org, ross@netbsd.org, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Copyright infringement in FreeBSD/alpha References: <199806111357.HAA02509@beer.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84 In-Reply-To: <199806111357.HAA02509@beer.org>; from Herb Peyerl on Thu, Jun 11, 1998 at 07:57:47AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Uh, excuse me for just a second. First, WTF (decode that yourself) does this have to do with the -hackers list? I'm on this list to read about code, not about people pissing in each other's faces about this and that. Second, if you're writing code and giving it away under BSDish terms, you can be pissed, you can scream, you can moan, but UNLESS you file the code with the Copyright office you probably can't sue, and even then you probably can't get damages (what economic harm would you assert?). So drop the crap about lawyers and such. THIRD, and probably most importantly, NetBSD has zero - and I do mean zero - right to come storming in here and pontificate about how things will work on the FreeBSD side of the fence "in the future". I am not a CORE team member, but I use a lot of this code, and do my fair share of debugging on the -CURRENT release. Frankly, all this has done is convince me that ever looking into NetBSD would be a COMPLETE waste of my time. I've had a few run-ins with the FreeBSD core folks, but I've never see this kind of crap out of them - this is beyond silly, its insane. Grow the fsck up Herb. Having said all of this, I will say no more - except will you PLEASE get this off the -HACKERS list! -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - Serving Chicagoland and Wisconsin http://www.mcs.net/ | T1's from $600 monthly / All Lines K56Flex/DOV | NEW! Corporate ISDN Prices dropped by up to 50%! Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| EXCLUSIVE NEW FEATURE ON ALL PERSONAL ACCOUNTS Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | *SPAMBLOCK* Technology now included at no cost On Thu, Jun 11, 1998 at 07:57:47AM -0600, Herb Peyerl wrote: > Ok, now that you've all had time to throw your diapers around; here's > how this is going to work in the future: > > All copyright 'issues' will be discussed in private between two > members of the two camps. There will be someone chosen on the > FreeBSD side to represent FreeBSD and there will be someone chosen > on the NetBSD side to represent NetBSD. I will be the person on > the NetBSD side. > > FreeBSD will take a few days to decide who should represent them > in these sorts of discussions and then they will inform me of their > decision. Both parties will agree to notify one another of changes > in staffing such that this mechanism is always in place. > > There will be no further discussion on this issue. That means people > will drop this _NOW_. > > Please let me know before June 15th. > > > Herb Peyerl > Core Group > The NetBSD Project > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message