From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 16:31:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32FF31065676 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:31:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bms@incunabulum.net) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F232D8FC1E for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:31:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1 [10.202.2.41]) by gateway1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4299DE22E6 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:31:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:31:47 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=messagingengine.com; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=smtpout; bh=I+VpAVCpdUKOdNW8IXZJ60LqwPs=; b=BL/tm6/i2E8TaxThJn4piWoES3ATcyYwYRbd14eur+pBobYtrDApX51zdYNLiYgfOtvd7dpaSj5ucfTT2gk89k5RsJFBUdsLRMwb5Kj3DAruq4l9E14jmxu+4l5LusyMopCzzWurThA4sc/nH2KYFHnzWT+ub1BMk1oWt1IAkHQ= X-Sasl-enc: M1HBKzjddBva7EXGFEiVVn3TfRTUTQD0eZCnUxfcb/PH 1267806706 Received: from anglepoise.lon.incunabulum.net (cpc2-dals7-0-0-cust253.hari.cable.virginmedia.com [82.35.112.254]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D40A84CB232 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:31:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4B9131F1.5020606@incunabulum.net> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:31:45 +0000 From: Bruce Simpson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100302 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <17035.1267786772@critter.freebsd.dk> <4B90E6B3.9070906@lissyara.su> In-Reply-To: <4B90E6B3.9070906@lissyara.su> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: propose: all arch move into a separate dir X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:31:49 -0000 On 03/05/10 11:10, Alex Keda wrote: > I'm not going anywhere, not even hope for it =) > I'm trying to make FreeBSD a better, more logical. > Maybe that's not very successful, but judging by the number of > responses, it hurt many, and made to think even more people. One of the things which attracted me to FreeBSD in the first place was the relatively democratic development model and philosophy behind it. You may find this document helpful, "How to Pay for Free Software", as it explains many points behind how free software funding works: http://users.puzzling.org/users/mary/HOWTO/Free/ FYI: I have not been directly funded by any of the entities called out in this thread. I often act as an unpaid volunteer on FreeBSD, or as an independent consultant. Much of my work has been funded by individuals directly, in some cases. I am therefore able to provide an unbiased opinion. I actually don't have a problem with not creating unnecessary code churn, regardless of third parties who may be using shared code. It seems to me quite reasonable not to make more work for oneself, or others, unnecessarily. I therefore disagree with the points you raise in your messages here, and actually find them unhelpful. I am saddened that you continue to make these irrational protestations despite my polite private message to you off-list. Could you please take your objections elsewhere? You are wasting people's time. regards, BMS