From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 27 20:51:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8954F16A4CE for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:51:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33DBA43D1D for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:51:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jayobrien@worldnet.att.net) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (dsl093-180-184.sac1.dsl.speakeasy.net[66.93.180.184]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with ESMTP id <20041227205052113005ons5e> (Authid: jayobrien@att.net); Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:50:53 +0000 Message-ID: <41D075A6.8090300@att.net> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 12:50:46 -0800 From: Jay O'Brien User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kirk Strauser References: <41CC8FFC.2030009@att.net> <41CDBB80.9010908@zonnet.nl> <41CDB185.3050209@att.net> <200412270932.59051.kirk@strauser.com> In-Reply-To: <200412270932.59051.kirk@strauser.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD - questions Subject: Re: portupgrade time, xorg ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:51:01 -0000 Kirk Strauser wrote: > On Saturday 25 December 2004 12:29, Jay O'Brien wrote: > > >>But it is there, so it will stay. > > > I doesn't *have* to stay, though: > > 1) Add 'WITHOUT_X11="YES"' to /etc/make.conf . > 2) Use You can use 'pkg_info -rR xorg-[whatever]' to see which ports depend > on a each of the X.org ports. > > For each "dependent" port, there will be three possible states: > > 1) You don't use it anymore (eg you used to use Firefox, but haven't in a > long time) and no other port depends on it. If this is true, then use > pkg_delete to remove that port. > > 2) You still use it, but don't use the X11 version of it (eg you want to use > ImageMagick for automated image processing, but don't need the 'display' > command which depends on X.org). In this case, you can rebuild the port > and with WITHOUT_X11="YES" setting above will remove its dependency on > X.org. > > 3) You still the X11 version of it. In this case, you won't be removing > X.org any time soon. > > Note that in case #2 above, you don't necessarily have to rebuild it *right > now*. A lot of ports are updated regularly and might be updated the next > time you run portupgrade anyway. If removing X.org isn't a high priority, > then you can always check back every month or so to see when the list of > packages that need X11 is small enough that you can force-upgrade them in a > reasonably short amount of time. > > Also note that this general approach works for pretty much any other large > system that you might want to remove, not just X.org. Kirk, Thanks for answering questions I didn't know how to ask. However, now that I realize I have xorg installed, I've been playing with it and I think I'll keep it around for now. I may even install Mozilla or Firefox. Jay