From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 8 00:49:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8C716A41F for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2006 00:49:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: from web33302.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33302.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0D25343D48 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2006 00:49:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 2208 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jan 2006 00:49:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=nOFI9y3smpeDL/bUZY64w95PFeCoNOeplQ1LU0Qs7ilcY8xIW5s1CL2ZnHorRcIwEV7AIzPl0VxnTxy/mVAGdPRXEZ9FVU5j8XeS1PGdxSiaZ20R64juCf/7A/37/4jndSq7PZ28gOS+UiyrybdgkJjFn+1AHhyPSeEhePILsBw= ; Message-ID: <20060108004912.2206.qmail@web33302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.46.186.215] by web33302.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 16:49:12 PST Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 16:49:12 -0800 (PST) From: Danial Thom To: JD Arnold , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Programming Book(s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 00:49:13 -0000 --- JD Arnold wrote: > Danial Thom wrote: > > > > --- Nicolas Blais > wrote: > > > >> On January 2, 2006 04:52 pm, Sean wrote: > >>> Sean wrote: > >>>> Looking for recommendations on any Unix > >> programming books. > >>>> I have been out of things for a while so I > >> would put my skill level back > >>>> to the beginning. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks > >>>> Sean > >>>> > >> > _______________________________________________ > >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>>> > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>>> > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >>> I forgot to mention that I wish to work > with > >> C/C++ > >>> Thanks again, > >>> Sean > >> There's a free C++ book which is great : > >> > > > http://mindview.net/Books/TICPP/ThinkingInCPP2e.html > >> You can also buy the hardcopy on Amazon. > >> > >> Nicolas > >> > > > > I'd recommend learning C before C++. In order > to > > be an effective unix programmer you must > master > > the C language, as you'll have to examine and > > modify code in C to do anything substantial. > > Virtually all major programs and kernels are > 'C' > > based. > > I think, in general, this is wrong. And I > think many "professionals" > also feel that learning C++ is the way to go. > If you just learning, > you might as well start with C++. For many good > reasons, see > Stroustrup's answer himself: > > http://public.research.att.com/~bs/learn.html > The concept that skipping the education part of it because C is too difficult is brilliant. I'll bet you all the guys at Bell Labs know C though. The question is, do you want to just write programs or do you want to be a programmer? If you buy a coffee table at AKEA and put it together you're not a carpenter. Just as if you slap together some C++ library code you're not a programmer. There is a distinction. DT __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com