From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 3 21:30:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DCF01065679 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 21:30:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roquesor@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF298FC13 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 21:30:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbdr11 with SMTP id dr11so28105426wgb.31 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 13:30:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=KY9jiTIMx5bQKtA1YwyFibIypASZXEHHvdBjre9DWn8=; b=EYLxgys13yqxsLry0MXr3auBe9WI499mH19jafqZ4LUwj2dWkdEqFfwwq6HP+bGmih 5ZCdYVXCp6v7xComW9iJCRKMsQ/xPjLpRwXDGGfxQLjk8jNmJyUeBXw0y83YhWNDtjTQ En/AXifaJxXVY6pdnGOpSS0FyP1raGGtaCzzg= Received: by 10.227.197.19 with SMTP id ei19mr344566wbb.6.1325626231535; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 13:30:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (45.Red-88-9-115.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net. [88.9.115.45]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fi11sm56508250wbb.9.2012.01.03.13.30.29 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 03 Jan 2012 13:30:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 22:30:28 +0100 From: Walter Alejandro Iglesias To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120103213028.GA1939@chancha.local> References: <20120101064247.3e8b0b56@scorpio> <4F00580D.1060208@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120101091420.117aa8f3@scorpio> <20120102065526.GA16481@hemlock.hydra> <20120102083114.6c09d839@scorpio> <20120102193319.GA31717@hemlock.hydra> <20120103020611.GA22209@chancha.local> <4F02A306.5060501@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120103121211.GA1375@chancha.local> <20120103181401.GB20156@hemlock.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120103181401.GB20156@hemlock.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 21:30:33 -0000 On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 11:14:01AM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 01:12:11PM +0100, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 04:41:10PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > > New users are nearly always dismayed at the apparent difficulty of > > > things, and should be warned that they will need to do some work "under > > > the hood" in order to get what they want. The honesty can start > > > immediately, it doesn't necessarily have to be a goal. > > > > > > When people think in freedom, think in rights. And rights are > > something that some "authority" give or steal. > > > > Multinationals think in what is good to sell. People like > > "comfort" over all. The taste of people is fantastically > > represented in the Wall-E movie; to "arise and walk" is not > > considered a right. Futurist?, my father, thirty years ago, to > > go to the corner to buy cigarettes, took the car; today he has > > half body paralyzed by an hemiplegia, and perhaps one day to > > arise and walk will not be a right for him. > > You're confusing "capability" with "right". These words are not the same > because their meanings are not the same. > > I have a right to speak my mind, but if cancer requires the removal of my > jaw so that I can no longer speak, I no longer have the capability of > speaking at all. These are different things; a capability can be taken > away, but a right cannot. > Dear Chad, You took "literally" what I wrote distorting all its meaning. I don't know if you did it in purpose because you though that I quoted you to debate with you. Sorry if I made think you that. Anyway I have the feeling that you will do it again if I try to explain you with other words what I really meant, falling in an infinite loop. Surely other people understood what I meant (at least Da Rock did); with one person I consider myself lucky. Besides, you know, my Tarzan's english is not worthy of the occasion :-). My fault, from now I will restrict my posts here to technical issues. Thanks for your patience and sorry for the misunderstanding. Walter