From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 17:28:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE211065670 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 17:28:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from oceanpt.safeport.com (oceanpt.safeport.com [65.122.17.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C7178FC1B for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 17:28:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oceanpt.safeport.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o36HSqDv018260; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:28:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:28:52 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@safeport.com To: Lowell Gilbert In-Reply-To: <446344g1go.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Message-ID: References: <446344g1go.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (oceanpt.safeport.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 06 Apr 2010 13:28:53 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: csup vs cvs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 17:28:55 -0000 On Tue, 6 Apr 2010, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > doug@safeport.com writes: > >> Yesterday I was updating an 8.0 stable system to pick up a change I >> specifically needed. The change was MFC'd Apr 4th at 11:38. I waited >> until about 8PM and ran cvs from cvsup2.FreeBSD.org. When the change >> was not there, I waited until Apr 5th, a bit after midnight. When I >> still did not pick up the change, I updated from a cvs repository. >> >> My question is how are the mirrors updated (cvsup2 specifically I >> guess). In general is using csup and cvs equivalent processes for non >> developers?. > > Your message doesn't really make sense to me; I suspect you're confusing > cvs with cvsup, but I'm not sure. cvsup and csup are different > implementations of the same functionality, and connect to the same > servers, so they really won't be different (they are, in fact, > interchangeable). Anonymous CVS access is not widely used, and is > really recommended only for experts. Different hubs update on different > schedules, but official ones are recommended to update hourly. First thank you for responding to an obviously badly worded question. I think my understanding exceeds my ability to explain my question. So I will be very specific about what I wanted. A change was MFC'd to the xorg intel driver to include support for the new chipsets. I took the fact that I could see the change on the web: Date: Sun Apr 4 15:37:47 2010 New Revision: 206164 URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/206164 Log: MFC r205096, r205102 Add AGP support for Intel Pineview and Ironlake chipsets. to mean that it would be propogated out to my favored csup server in due course. The change was not on cvsup2.FreeBSD.org by 2AM Monday, so I got a source tree from a cvs repository my unix guru runs and updated using that. I used his because I host it. What I attempted to ask is (1) how are the mirrors updated; and (2), is there a particular lag time where the latest changes would have to be there? This is not normally an issue for me but I have a laptop that will not run X w/o this change. I normally do not use cvs because, I am not a developer and my 'learning new things bucket' is pretty full. Hence my [however badly worded] question. Again thanks for bearing with me. _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277