From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jan 17 15:14:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA16329 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 15:14:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from linux4nn.gn.iaf.nl (root@linux4nn.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA16323 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 15:14:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from uni4nn.iaf.nl (root@uni4nn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.33]) by linux4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA21109; Thu, 18 Jan 1996 00:14:15 +0100 Received: by uni4nn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA12351 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Thu, 18 Jan 1996 00:13:35 +0100 Received: by iafnl.es.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA12478 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Wed, 17 Jan 1996 23:33:49 +0100 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.6.11/8.6.6) id TAA01220; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 19:45:00 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199601171845.TAA01220@yedi.iaf.nl> X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem - The Netherlands Subject: Re: Yet another PPP question To: john@gateway.net.hk (John Beukema) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 19:45:00 +0100 (MET) Cc: nate@sri.MT.net, tomg@fourthgen.com, hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "John Beukema" at Jan 17, 96 10:08:42 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Is not this CHAP and PAP which are pretty standard even if not in the RFC? > I think it is hard to pretend MS is not there. > jbeukema > > > On Tue, 16 Jan 1996, Nate Williams wrote: > [del] > > > > So, M$ TCP/IP stacks are trying to negotiate non-existant features using > > an invalid protocol which only works with their own product. > > > > The solution? Yell and scream to M$ and tell them to use standard > > protocol and quit using useless proprietary extensions. If they want to > > use proprietary extensions, have them put inside other proprietary code. > > > > Nate I once had to use an ISP that uses MS-NT as server machines. I was _very_ glad ijppp supported this non-RFC negotiation stuff. I do sympathise with Nate though.. Wilko _ __________________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Wilko Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem - The Netherlands --------------------------------------------------------------------------------