From owner-cvs-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 12 12:24:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74FF5106566B; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:24:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [65.122.17.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C6C68FC1E; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:24:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E794B46B0D; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:23:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:23:59 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert Watson X-X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Alexander Leidinger In-Reply-To: <20090312131147.18623am36o8ct24g@webmail.leidinger.net> Message-ID: References: <200903120659.n2C6xas2031642@repoman.freebsd.org> <20090312113812.179151uxuziye0w0@webmail.leidinger.net> <20090312131147.18623am36o8ct24g@webmail.leidinger.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Brooks Davis , cvs-doc@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, doc-committers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/en/projects/ideas ideas.xml X-BeenThere: cvs-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the doc and www trees List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:24:01 -0000 On Thu, 12 Mar 2009, Alexander Leidinger wrote: >> I think there could be a useful project to be done on fleshing out kernel >> SDT providers, but that we need to come up with a more specific description >> if we want it to be useful for GSoC. We also need to identify a potential >> mentor for the project who can field questions during the proposal process, >> potentially mentor the project, and so on. > > To have it on the ideas list we don't need a GSoC mentor... basically I say > that I think that the DTraceToolkit stuff should stay on the ideas list in > some form (doesn't matter to me if it is marked up fro the GSoC or not). On the ideas list, perhaps, but I feel increasingly strongly that no idea without a technical contact should be tagged as GSoC-appropriate, and that we should also have mentors in mind for every project there. Pre-submission interaction improves not just the quality of the proposal, but also gives us an early sense as to whether they have the right skills so that they can tune the proposal to what it turns out the students are able to do. I also feel we shouldn't invite people to submit proposals on an idea if we don't have someone willing to mentor them, because we've had that happen and it's unproductive :-). Robert N M Watson Computer Laboratory University of Cambridge > > That aside, as I already added a lot of dtrace probes in my linuxulator user > branch (slowed down a little bit ATM because of other high priority tasks), I > feel confident to mentor some DTrace probes related GSoC project (if there's > some interest out there that this should be done), so the mentor part should > not be a showstopper. > > Bye, > Alexander. > > -- > If it sits on your desk for 15 minutes, you've just > become the expert. > > http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID = B0063FE7 > http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID = 72077137