From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 14:19:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B21C837B418 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:19:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 62435 invoked by uid 100); 19 Nov 2001 22:19:22 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15353.34154.70535.751414@guru.mired.org> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:19:22 -0600 To: dochawk@psu.edu Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Vi a Joke ? In-Reply-To: <60230366@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG dochawk@psu.edu types: > David dabbled > > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > One point people forget and that is what can you use when you mess up > > > rc.conf and your system will only boot into single user mode. Learning > > > vi at that point is a painic :). > > At that point it is nice to know how to use "ed". :-) > as I found out the hard way a couple of months ago :) > vim is on /usr, and if you're hitting single user becuase of a problem > with /usr, ed is all there is. Fortunately, ed is rather obvious to > the vi user--I hadn't used it in over 15 years, and did just fine. I still use ed regularly. If I'm going to make a one-line change on a file I know fairly well, vi drawing the full screen is just a waste of time. I run Xemacs as me for mail, programming, and most other things. I tend to use vi as root for simple but not trivial things. For really complex things, I'll edit a copy as me in emacs or start emacs up. Does that make me trieditorial? The article reminded me of a study done at Xerox on editors. They had one test subject who was something much faster than anyone else, whereas most others grouped close together, with relatively minor variations compared to that. Turns out the subject in question was just typing the correct sequence of commands without worrying about seeing the results. Hard to beat that. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message