From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 16:49:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ECE616A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:49:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postal1.es.net (postal1.es.net [198.128.3.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA80543D49 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:48:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal1.es.net (Postal Node 1) with ESMTP (SSL) id IBA74465; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:48:59 -0800 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 4476A5D08; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:48:59 -0800 (PST) To: Jiawei Ye In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:45:39 +0800." Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:48:59 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20050317164859.4476A5D08@ptavv.es.net> cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: Jeff Smick Subject: Re: ATAPICAM Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:49:00 -0000 > Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:45:39 +0800 > From: Jiawei Ye > Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org > > On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:32:46 -0600, Jon Noack wrote: > > The handbook is a bit confusing on this. It calls the config(8) kernel > > build the "traditional way" and 'make buildkernel' the "new way". If I > > am a new user and don't want to stray far from the norm, wouldn't I pick > > the "traditional way"? Shouldn't we make it more clear the "new way" is > > the "recommended and officially sanctioned way"? > > > > Jon > My suggestion would be > s/traditional/deprecated > s/new/standard > > $.2 Since there is still one case where the "traditional" method needs to be used, I don't think is should/can be deprecated. Instead I think the "new" method should be described as simply the method to use if full sources are present and that the "traditional" method is the method to use if full sources are not available. The terms "new " and "traditional should be deleted and the order reversed since most people do keep the full sources these days. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634