From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 17 19:55:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 502CE106564A for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:55:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 149DB8FC19 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:55:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [192.168.61.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12DB13F129; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:55:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n1HJtUj0015529; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:55:30 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Maksim Yevmenkin From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:51:45 PST." Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:55:30 +0000 Message-ID: <15528.1234900530@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: phk@critter.freebsd.dk Cc: Ed Schouten , Michael Butler , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: IFF_NEEDSGIANT consumers to be disabled, removed X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:55:29 -0000 In message , Maksim Yevmenkin writes: >> But nmdm(4) is not really meant to be used for stuff like that, not that > >why not? i think its exactly what it was meant for. A further example: Testing software that implements serial protocols is soo much easier when one does not have to lug a serial cable around. Poul-Henning -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.