From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 22:31:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8341065676 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:31:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9968FC1D for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:31:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBTMVX9k025477; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:31:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F271ABA9D; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:31:32 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:31:32 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Kaya Saman Message-ID: <20091229223132.GA59169@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> <6201873e0912281420n590b173dtac94f9936cca6e3@mail.gmail.com> <4B393463.5060504@netscape.net> <6201873e0912281504j552d6351mf64d8e566d54bcef@mail.gmail.com> <20091229142310.GD90870@Alex1.lan> <4B3A1E1A.1040506@netscape.net> <20091229162711.GA38738@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4B3A3045.3050907@netscape.net> <20091229173139.GA33613@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4B3A5321.3070709@netscape.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B3A5321.3070709@netscape.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:31:35 -0000 --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 09:06:09PM +0200, Kaya Saman wrote: > lot's of different pieces of advice rolling in now! >=20 > I guess what I will do as I have a small hard disk for what I want to do= =20 > which is to get rid of my music and few movies which are stored on my=20 > laptop currently, is create separate /, /tmp, /usr and /var. If you can afford it, and if your laptop has a USB port, buy one of those external harddisks. Plenty of room for music and movies... Also great for backups! =20 > I propose which is similar to what Frank has suggested: >=20 > / ~500M > /tmp ~2GB > /var ~2GB > /usr ~2GB > /home the rest I would make /usr greater. See below. > but then Jerry has already suggested: >=20 > partition mount point Size=20 > a / 512 MegaBytes (1/2 GByte) > b swap 2048 MBytes (2 GBytes) > d /tmp 512 MBytes > e /usr 4096 MBytes > f /var 4096 MBytes > g /home 29 GB (eg all of the rest of the disk) >=20 >=20 > This could be ok I reckon as the 4GB partitions should be there as=20 > everyone has suggested for me to use ports and build from source! I'd make /usr bigger. 5-10 GiB, if you can spare it. > The reason why I preferred to use package manager was that on say=20 > Solaris it's pretty a much a pain having to install all the dependencies= =20 > from Sun Freeware site. Realize that not all software is available as packages because of e.g. licensing restrictions. And some ports you can customize via so-called "options". If you install from packages, you're stuck with the (default) options used when building the packages. The FreeBSD ports system is _so_ convenient. It's one of the great features= of FreeBSD, as is the user community. > I mean what I will be installing if completely base install with just OS= =20 > and nothing more like I mentioned before is Samba, NFS server/client,=20 > NTP, Nano as the quote below from Jerry using vi or vim is not my=20 > preferred text editor as I find them extremely difficult and a real pain= =20 > to use. The ee(1) editor is part of the base system. This is a _lot_ friendlier tha= n vi! Give it a try, you might not even need nano. > In addition I do not think this machine has a DVD drive either although= =20 > I haven't fired up the Win build yet to transfer files but from what the= =20 > drive says on the front of 52x looks like it's CD only :-( Good enough for installing. :-) =20 > For this reason the discussed packages above will need to be downloaded= =20 > and installed my best guess is from source. Installing from source is the most flexible method. How is your internet connection? > Meaning I will need extra=20 > space in one of the filesystems but am unsure where the source gets=20 > stored?? My best guess would be /usr? In /usr/ports to be exact. The source code tarballs are also stored there, under /usr/ports/distfiles. On my system, /usr/ports/distfiles is now 799 MiB (450 ports, remember!). The rest of /usr/ports is 543 MiB. Realize that ports will be compiled under /usr/ports as well! Good luck! 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