From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Apr 12 19:55:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA17782 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 19:55:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw01.execpc.com (mailgw01.execpc.com [169.207.16.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA17679; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 19:55:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (indobok-9.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.87.9]) by mailgw01.execpc.com (8.8.8) id CAA19046; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 02:54:43 GMT Received: from darkstar.connect.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by darkstar.connect.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA02561; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 21:54:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199804130254.VAA02561@darkstar.connect.com> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 21:54:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Frank Pawlak Subject: Re: Promoting FreeBSD - the user's piece of the action. To: jktheowl@bga.com cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, fpawlak@execpc.com, chat@FreeBSD.ORG, danj@3skel.com, jmb@FreeBSD.ORG, toor@dyson.iquest.net, brett@lariat.org, mike@smith.net.au, dshanes@personalogic.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You are a devil after my own heart << real big grin >> I love your turn of the phrase. I won't touch the long bow part. We'll talk more once Jordan responds. Thanks Frank. On 12 Apr, John Kenagy wrote: > > > On Sun, 12 Apr 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > The sounds of battle looming remind me of Henry V and the St. Crispin > speech. You know... paraphrasing "...they who don't stand with us > this day will hold their manhood cheap." Henry speaking just before > Agincourt. > >> > Perhaps a core team of volunteers modeled on the way the core >> > development team operates will be just as effective in getting our job >> > done as you are doing yours. Just as you are the leader of the core >> > team our leader will arise from ongoing dialog and compilation of ideas >> > that eventually jell into the business plan that I suggested, and our >> >> I've no problem with that idea at all. Moreover, I think that the >> FreeBSD project has always strongly endorsed the concept of a >> "management hierarchy", possibly more out of enlightened laziness than >> anything else, since any reasonably effective hierarchy enables one to >> not have to worry about a large number of things. I'd like to not >> have to worry so much about grass-roots publicity and such, yes. :-) >> >> However, getting people genuinely willing to "manage" is harder than >> it looks. Being willing to lead implies a long-term committment >> and that scares a lot of people off. >> > I'll volunteer. It isn't as though I have time on my hands but I do > know how to pioneer a product. And, I do know the value of a longbow. > (evil grin) > > If you have questions, contact me, please. > > John > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message -- ----------------------------- "At no time is freedom of speech more precious then when a man hits his thumb with a hammer." -- Marshall Lumsden To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message