From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 23:46:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0162D16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:46:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9371D43D1F for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:46:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:46:44 +0100 Message-ID: <42B7553A.9070402@dial.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:46:02 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tuc at T-B-O-H References: <200506202304.j5KN4cPX000832@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> In-Reply-To: <200506202304.j5KN4cPX000832@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jun 2005 23:46:44.0340 (UTC) FILETIME=[5085AB40:01C575F2] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems since 5.3-RELEASE-p15 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:46:05 -0000 Tuc at T-B-O-H wrote: >>On 6/17/05, Tuc at T-B-O-H wrote: >> >>>> Ever since I upgraded to 5.3-RELEASE-p15, I've started to run into >>>>problems... All of a sudden, anything I do results in a Segfault. Sometimes >>>>I'll get : >>>> >>>> /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: top: Shared object has no run-time symbol table >>>> >>>> >>Are you sure you rebuilt and re-installed both your kernel and your >>world? If they are out of sync, that can cause unusual problems. >> >> >> > Yes. I have a 2 part process I run : >[process elided] > I guess I could re-run it and see if it continues. > > > If the problem is intermittent then I would suspect the hardware (I know, everyone always says that, but I really have used a brand new server which segfaulted randomly and it really was a memory problem). Try building a memtest86 CD from the ports (from a different machine perhaps) and running it for at least several hours, though it might not take that long. Your BIOS might also support extended memory tests (try disabling quick POST) though they are supposed to be less effective than memtest86. >>If you have upgraded to 5.3-RELEASE-p15 why not just upgrade to >>5.4-RELEASE-p*? >> >> >> > I'm always nervous going up a release due to my NVIDIA card.... > > I've never used any fancy features of my NVidia under FreeBSD (never need them!) and the stock Xorg Nvidia driver works just fine on my aging GeForce2, so I can't really comment on that. But there have been many comments on this list that 5.4 is a real improvement over 5.3 (went straight from 4.11 myself). However, if this *is* a hardware problem then I would worry about that first. The upgrade to 5.3-p15 (presumably from 5.3-p-something else) could be pure coincidence. I mean, you have to be doing *something* before getting a hardware fault! --Alex