From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 22:46:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40ECD1065670 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:46:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samankaya@netscape.net) Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF0C68FC08 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:46:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nBTMkKDe016025; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:46:20 -0500 Received: from samankaya@netscape.net by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id d.c41.7135aee8 (44230); Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:46:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.21] (dsl.dynamic81215233158.ttnet.net.tr [81.215.233.158]) by cia-dd08.mx.aol.com (v127.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIADD088-acc64b3a86b124d; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:46:13 -0500 Message-ID: <4B3A86B0.8050607@netscape.net> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:46:08 +0200 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.22) Gecko/20090605 SeaMonkey/1.1.17 (Ubuntu-1.1.17+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.04.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Smith References: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> <6201873e0912281420n590b173dtac94f9936cca6e3@mail.gmail.com> <4B393463.5060504@netscape.net> <6201873e0912281504j552d6351mf64d8e566d54bcef@mail.gmail.com> <20091229142310.GD90870@Alex1.lan> <4B3A1E1A.1040506@netscape.net> <20091229162711.GA38738@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4B3A3045.3050907@netscape.net> <20091229173139.GA33613@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4B3A5321.3070709@netscape.net> <20091229223132.GA59169@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20091229223132.GA59169@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AOL-IP: 81.215.233.158 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: samankaya@netscape.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:46:48 -0000 Roland: > > If you can afford it, and if your laptop has a USB port, buy one of those > external harddisks. Plenty of room for music and movies... Also great for > backups! > Can't afford :-( I have many disks like that where I bought really cool enclosures and the drives separately but currently am in a really bad situation financially. In UK in my parents house I have round 3.2TB or so with 1.7TB dedicated to music and movies. Out here though I only have my 320GB drive on my laptop which has 9 OS's on it including VM's. 160GB for Linux which I have Fedora 10 and Kubuntu on the other side I run OpenSolaris and Belenix in different ZFS pools. Laptop is cool 6GB memory too :-) ~# fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 320.0 GB, 320072933376 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x34f7742e Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 1 19453 156256191 bf Solaris /dev/sda2 19454 23709 34186320 83 Linux /dev/sda3 * 23710 25534 14659312+ 83 Linux /dev/sda4 25535 38913 107466817+ 5 Extended /dev/sda5 25535 38665 105474726 83 Linux /dev/sda6 38666 38913 1992028+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris ~# df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda2 33G 11G 21G 34% / tmpfs 2.9G 4.0K 2.9G 1% /lib/init/rw varrun 2.9G 240K 2.9G 1% /var/run varlock 2.9G 4.0K 2.9G 1% /var/lock udev 2.9G 180K 2.9G 1% /dev tmpfs 2.9G 708K 2.9G 1% /dev/shm lrm 2.9G 2.5M 2.9G 1% /lib/modules/2.6.28-17-generic/volatile /dev/sda5 100G 93G 1.2G 99% /home /dev/sda3 14G 9.6G 3.6G 74% /mnt/tmp > > >> I propose which is similar to what Frank has suggested: >> >> / ~500M >> /tmp ~2GB >> /var ~2GB >> /usr ~2GB >> /home the rest >> > > I would make /usr greater. See below. > > >> but then Jerry has already suggested: >> >> partition mount point Size >> a / 512 MegaBytes (1/2 GByte) >> b swap 2048 MBytes (2 GBytes) >> d /tmp 512 MBytes >> e /usr 4096 MBytes >> f /var 4096 MBytes >> g /home 29 GB (eg all of the rest of the disk) >> >> >> This could be ok I reckon as the 4GB partitions should be there as >> everyone has suggested for me to use ports and build from source! >> > > I'd make /usr bigger. 5-10 GiB, if you can spare it. > Err I will try 4GB because I need to dump round 10-15GB here clogging up my disks. In fact I just partitioned the drive using FreeBSIE and I think it's only a 30GB on this desktop which I can always look into getting a new one in time. But slightly stuck for now! > > > Realize that not all software is available as packages because of > e.g. licensing restrictions. And some ports you can customize via so-called > "options". If you install from packages, you're stuck with the (default) > options used when building the packages. > > The FreeBSD ports system is _so_ convenient. It's one of the great features of > FreeBSD, as is the user community. > I just the packages I mentioned before that's it! If I can do that it will be really cool..... > > > The ee(1) editor is part of the base system. This is a _lot_ friendlier than vi! > Give it a try, you might not even need nano. > I will try it out thanks for that! :-) > >> In addition I do not think this machine has a DVD drive either although >> I haven't fired up the Win build yet to transfer files but from what the >> drive says on the front of 52x looks like it's CD only :-( >> > > Good enough for installing. :-) > > >> For this reason the discussed packages above will need to be downloaded >> and installed my best guess is from source. >> > > Installing from source is the most flexible method. How is your internet > connection? > Hahahah the biggest joke of 2k9 is my internet as it's 512kbps :-( That's what happens when you move country to a developing one things slow down to a halt. In UK I had 20Mbps aaaah I really miss it! > >> Meaning I will need extra >> space in one of the filesystems but am unsure where the source gets >> stored?? My best guess would be /usr? >> > > In /usr/ports to be exact. The source code tarballs are also stored there, > under /usr/ports/distfiles. On my system, /usr/ports/distfiles is now 799 > MiB (450 ports, remember!). The rest of /usr/ports is 543 MiB. Realize that > ports will be compiled under /usr/ports as well! > Ah ok I will look at this once my install progresses, I just hope that 4GB is enough for this! I really need to maximize space for /home where all my stuff will be deposited to for the moment as I don't trust the drive either as it really grinds like crazy but then it might be MS Win doing that? > Good luck! > > Roland > Many thanks I will need all the luck I can get! So need to get a nice job and get myself a disk array from Sun or so linked to a proper 19" rack server. Not in my uncles house though :-P Regards, Kaya