From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 7 11:07:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2322138B for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 11:07:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net) Received: from smtp-out03.alice-dsl.net (smtp-out03.alice-dsl.net [88.44.63.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45E2253 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 11:07:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out.alice-dsl.de ([192.168.125.62]) by smtp-out03.alice-dsl.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 7 Apr 2013 13:05:30 +0200 Received: from [78.50.20.0] ([78.50.20.0]) by out.alice-dsl.de over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 7 Apr 2013 13:05:19 +0200 Message-ID: <1365332719.4069.99.camel@archlinux> Subject: Re: Youtube & Flash Videos broken? From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2013 13:05:19 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20130407062158.08e1c3fb@scorpio> References: <20130406213911.GB2802@schweikhardt.net> <1365285205.709.7.camel@archlinux> <1365285467.709.10.camel@archlinux> <20130407062158.08e1c3fb@scorpio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.6.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Apr 2013 11:05:19.0780 (UTC) FILETIME=[CADF0640:01CE337F] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2013 11:07:16 -0000 On Sun, 2013-04-07 at 06:21 -0400, Jerry wrote: > On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 23:57:47 +0200 > Ralf Mardorf articulated: > > > On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 23:53 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 23:39 +0200, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywn2Lz5zmYg > > > > > > Firefox 20.0 Arch Linux x86_64 can't play this video too. Neither > > > flash, nor gnash installed. Perhaps it's a video with a commercial, > > > before the video can be watched? Wicked! > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUPtiYiMCbQ > > > > > > Video and audio are ok for this video, still without flash or gnash. > > > > Perhaps we should switch to Windows :D. SICR > > I have pretty much given up on using Firefox with FreeBSD on sites that > utilize Flash. It usually just sucks. Sites like "comedy Central" are > just not view-able utilizing that combination. I use my Windows PC or > Laptop for those times. Plus, I can keep Flash and or Java "up-to-date" > far easier. I never needed to use Windows, I could switch from the Atari ST to *nix around ten years ago, but since around 1½ years I need to run Windows in VBox. I planed to start making music on Friday, now it's Sunday noon and I still couldn't start, because I still need to fix issues. However, I experienced less issues with *nix software, usually I run into issues regarding to hardware. Fortunately I don't care about the flash issue, if tube videos don't work, I don't watch tube videos and if flash should be needed for something else on a homepage, it for sure isn't a homepage I want to visit. Usually web pages for *nix are programmed like http://www.freebsd.org/ and very seldom like http://linux-audio.com/ but even this site doesn't expect flash. Serious homepages, e.g. from departments, usually are good programmed and commercial homepages, e.g. from the porn industry, are usually bad programmed. If users would stop visiting bad programmed sites, we would get better programmed websites, so IMO we shouldn't fix the issues others cause, it's their task to fix their websites. 2 Cents, Ralf