From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 20:34:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1AB71065676 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:34:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F838FC0A for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:34:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [84.49.246.2]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2AB06D41B; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:34:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 692B2844A0; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:34:52 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: "Mario Lobo" References: <20091014151026.699a5765@ernst.jennejohn.org> <18175.200.249.56.17.1255528438.squirrel@squirrel.sv4.hmnoc.net> <86vdiix775.fsf@ds4.des.no> <26594.200.249.56.17.1255540574.squirrel@squirrel.sv4.hmnoc.net> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:34:52 +0200 In-Reply-To: <26594.200.249.56.17.1255540574.squirrel@squirrel.sv4.hmnoc.net> (Mario Lobo's message of "Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:16:14 -0300 (BRT)") Message-ID: <86my3tyas3.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.95 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buffers not syncing correctly during shutdown X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:34:54 -0000 "Mario Lobo" writes: > That IS true ! but like you said, "most cases" <> "all cases". Once, on a > company I was doing work at, I clicked on "Safely Remove Hardware" and it > said "can=C2=B4t do it. device busy", although there was (apparently) not= hing > using any files from the stick. I yanked it out anyway. result: the 3 > files I edited from the stick were gone :(. Since I don=C2=B4t know when = I am > gonna hit a case that doesn=C2=B4t belong to "most", I always try to reme= mber > to unmount (i.e. Safely Remove Hardware) the stick before unplugging it. Always a good idea - but my point was that Windows's "safely remove hardware" feature should not be construed as an excuse for FreeBSD to hang or crash when you remove a disk or memory stick. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no