From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 06:19:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD35E16A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 06:19:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-da-3.dns-solutions.net (mail-da-3.dns-solutions.net [69.12.112.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C426B43FF2 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 06:19:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ) Received: (qmail 89835 invoked from network); 1 Sep 2003 13:19:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO christabel.starbreaker.net) (matthew@starbreaker.net@209.113.233.11) by mail-da-3.dns-solutions.net - 209.113.233.11 with SMTP; 1 Sep 2003 13:19:35 -0000 Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:19:42 -0400 From: Matthew Graybosch To: Denis Troshin Message-ID: <20030901131942.GA20141@christabel.starbreaker.net> References: <29508631.20030901165843@mail.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <29508631.20030901165843@mail.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ugly Huge BSD Monster X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 13:19:37 -0000 On 16:58 Mon 01 Sep , Denis Troshin wrote: > P.S. Under Windows it is possible to write not bad applications which > depend just on libraries (KERNEL32, USER32, GDI32). And these libs > exist on every base system!!! > > Is it possible in unix? > > Before I thought that unix programs very compact, but they are huge! If you want compact unix programs, don't use X apps or apps written in scripting languages like Perl and Python. FreeBSD by itself doesn't offer the monstrous APIs that Windows offers; it just offers an implementation of the standard C library (libc). As a result, stock FreeBSD is a very barebones environment. -- Matthew Graybosch http://www.starbreaker.net "The best way to lose an argument is to throw the first punch."