From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 19 17:46:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C84BD7C for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 17:46:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-x236.google.com (mail-ie0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF27B7FB for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 17:46:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iecar1 with SMTP id ar1so1671086iec.11 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 09:46:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7tZI7SMW5tSKUF25ZVzQs6EmgbuycCNuhsh3WPwRgAM=; b=JxhLCbKLRV94BBvEkw2j6SeUWeR198M6v+i/VCdt/2WxlN78xGOSuJlomiGqCGzXQz 101onn9ihrFvMaWKwLGmW4DaedR68n0u11EpYqdbUt/WofAii6DpcZUPrFH6mala0gKG TutyDEt0THiw51eV8Cp506NqrkqxRdrOGDQVX9nVhCsQ1I9XMui0Xi/On6Vj7pwKWTLj ihzocvkejDcjvn1ajaBHBdETiC7GIrGuLaDa/gP8Wx2rQPQ8zlXMpdaGF556y2//16f3 SBfhbaDmDh4CfKuNoLvdbeFj6pS1AczW8NJTTAuwFamGaOyhff0rHIsTRjFa5l5Zj5d3 pX/g== X-Received: by 10.107.12.167 with SMTP id 39mr7858691iom.71.1424368006231; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 09:46:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([2601:7:6c80:6f00::baff]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id i93sm15381322iod.7.2015.02.19.09.46.44 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 19 Feb 2015 09:46:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54E62183.1050407@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 10:46:43 -0700 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's in my hard drive? How can I get rid of it? References: <54E39F83.70002@gmail.com> <20150218173047.GA53030@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20150218184227.GC26575@neutralgood.org> <20150219132221.b5d14e68.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150219081839.1a4c0359@scorpio> <54E61796.4060306@gmail.com> <20150219122446.4ff6982f@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20150219122446.4ff6982f@scorpio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 17:46:47 -0000 On 02/19/2015 10:24 AM, Jerry wrote: > On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 10:04:22 -0700, jd1008 stated: > >> What a pile of manure. >> Any decent and intelligent lawyer could appeal such >> cased and have the conviction thrown out of court - >> this, assuming that our court systems and judges are >> actually fully beholden to the constitution and the rule >> of law, and due process. > Just two cases in point: > > Los Angeles County > > Francisco "Franky" Carrillo was convicted of the 1991 murder of Donald Sarpy > and sentenced to life in jail. His conviction was reversed by the Los Angeles > County Superior Court on March 14, 2011, after he had served twenty years in > prison. > > Geronimo Pratt, a Black Panther leader, was convicted in 1972 of the 1968 > murder of a white school teacher and sentenced to life in jail. He was > exonerated in 1997. > > There are literally 100's of cases that are sometimes corrected after 20+ > years. Is 20+ years your idea of success? Of course NOT!!!! It only highlights and underlines the fact the the courts are NOT what they ought to be. Why would the courts delay the hearing of such appeals? Why would the lawyers delay the filing of such appeals. The whole system is obviously broken. Have you seen and heard of what some police are doing to totally unarmed individuals? Some such individuals have died by police mishandling (and that's stating mildly). In many such cases, the police are exonerated by the courts. Scant few are prosecuted. Sorry to say, that "democracies" have indeed degenerated or are slowly degenerating into thuggeries, with the real rulers always hidden behind the screen of so called elected officials who are bribed and and intimidated into doing the will of their masters. Does 911 ring a bell? Or do you believe that it was a real attack by outsiders? Please do read the philosopher Hegel. > By the way, this is my number 1 > argument against the death penalty. Correct me if I am wrong, but they have > not discovered how to reanimate a corpse yet have they? Ah... you have not watched Young Frankenstein? :) :) > > It was reported, and I forgot what agency did the study, that not less than > 2% and not more than 7% of all incarcerated men and women in the US are > totally innocent of the crime they were convicted of.It went on to state that > these convictions were obtained though a combination of official misconduct > by the prosecution and sloppy or deliberately engineered investigations by > the police. > > These cases from NY are interesting because I actually knew some of the cops > involved in the Westchester case. > > New York > > New York County > > The Central Park Five were five Harlem teens convicted of the 1989 assault > and rape of a jogger in New York's Central Park. They served their sentences > but afterwards their convictions were set aside in 2002 when DNA evidence > cleared them and another man confessed to the crime. > > Westchester County > > In 1998 Kian Daniel Khatibi was convicted of a double stabbing after > detectives from the Village of Pleasantville falsely claimed that the victims > had identified Kian as their attacker and then forwarded this false > information to the Westchester County District Attorney. In 2008, Kian was > released from prison as the truth unraveled and the conviction was overturned. > > Jeffrey Mark Deskovic was convicted of the 1989 of rape and murder of a high > school classmate and sentenced to 15 years-life in jail. He was exonerated in > 2006 when the DNA from the crime was matched to another person. >