From owner-freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 15 10:00:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-bugs@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9014837B401 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 10:00:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00FE443F75 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 10:00:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4FH0UUp094881 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 10:00:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h4FH0Uw0094880; Thu, 15 May 2003 10:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 10:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200305151700.h4FH0Uw0094880@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org From: Ruslan Ermilov Subject: Re: misc/52122: make release does not use proper binar X-BeenThere: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ruslan Ermilov List-Id: Bug reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 17:00:32 -0000 The following reply was made to PR misc/52122; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ruslan Ermilov To: John Hay Cc: obrien@freebsd.org, bug-followup@freebsd.org Subject: Re: misc/52122: make release does not use proper binar Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 19:52:29 +0300 --m51xatjYGsM+13rf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 06:31:42PM +0200, John Hay wrote: > >=20 > > I'm adding this from John Baldwin > > Message-ID: as its useful: > > =20 > > A better solution would be to do what I have said before but > > you and others whined that you didn't want: We should _still_ > > do a full make world in the chroot _like_ we used to and then > > do a further make buildworld for the cross-build case. ru@ > > didn't like that and tried to change everything to use > > cross-built tools or some such garbage. Since ru@ is the one > > who broke this in revision 1.672 we should at least ask him > > for input on how to fix this. Ruslan, the problem is that we > > need up to date tools in the release chroot. >=20 > Why not just update the source and do a buildworld in the native > environment? You can either do it before every release snapshot > or like me, when it seems necesary. This way I save a few cycles. >=20 > One reason why it isn't that useful inside the chroot area, is that > if your running kernel and the newly built bits gets too much out of > sync you will need to update the machine in any case, so you will > end up with "new" binaries and a kernel on the machine and so it > is a "waste" to recompile world inside the chroot area. >=20 > Just my 2 bits. (I'm not on RE, but have two machines building a > -stable and -current snap every night.) >=20 I was hoping that you will pop up, John. This just seconds my words about it, thank you. Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age --m51xatjYGsM+13rf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+w8XNUkv4P6juNwoRAlqVAJ0Zh492PLZXz4Md6e6va1dQg54FbwCeJCBZ /2TTmEfNYi9xBDCxS/+B6zc= =T6ph -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --m51xatjYGsM+13rf--