From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Dec 8 07:10:48 1995 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA09548 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 8 Dec 1995 07:10:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA09543 Fri, 8 Dec 1995 07:10:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jkh@localhost) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id HAA28341; Fri, 8 Dec 1995 07:09:55 -0800 Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 07:09:55 -0800 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Message-Id: <199512081509.HAA28341@time.cdrom.com> To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: A call for DNS secondaries to server for .freebsd.org Cc: announce@freebsd.org Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi folks, We're trying to untangle some of the spaghetti that currently comprises the mirror site list as well as start setting up regional www, ftp and sup servers. This is no longer just a good idea, it's getting to be a necessity - connectivity between the U.S. and beyond (not to mention *within* the U.S.) has gone rapidly downhill these last couple of months and packet lossage is no minor problem for people trying to get to our archive site(s). Add to this the fact that our mirror site list is next to impossible to memorize, and if you're at some customer site (or friends) and don't have your handy list with you, you're left with ftp.freebsd.org or nothing. I propose that we deal with all or most of these problems at the same time by creating secondary name servers for each major subdomain. We've already done this for .au (Australia), .br (Brazil), .fr (France) and .it (Italy). We should at least try to get all the countries who currently have servers in MIRROR.SITES represented by their own domains so that we can unify the ftp namespace in the same way that Netscape has - e.g. the Japanese sites (for example) would become ftp.jp.freebsd.org, ftp1.jp.freebsd.org, and so on. This makes them both trivial to remember and to cycle through when you're looking for a server with some slots free in your country of origin. Ideally, someday it will be possible to simply not think about this anymore - wherever you are, {ftp,www,sup}.dom.freebsd.org will work. I'm not sure what to do about the U.S. ftp servers except perhaps to be U.S.-centric about it and just use the freebsd.org domain space directly for U.S. resources. Would people prefer to see ftp.us.freebsd.org? It would seem to be adding unnecessary complexity. In any case, I would be quite happy if the various FTP site admins could discuss this among themselves and delegate one site per domain to serve as the DNS server, reporting the details back to us (admin@freebsd.org) once they're ready for us to add the entries to the freebsd.org domain. We have it within our power to present a more organized global picture than that of the Linux camp, so let's do it! :-) Jordan P.S. Please watch the replies! I have announce@freebsd.org in the envelope and we don't want this thread to go there as well. Thanks!