From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 06:31:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A623A106567D for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:31:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) Received: from gizmo.2hip.net (gizmo.2hip.net [64.74.207.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C5768FC1B for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:31:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.1.156] (adsl-157-61-189.bna.bellsouth.net [70.157.61.189]) (authenticated bits=0) by gizmo.2hip.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3A6FvQS068585 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:15:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) From: Robert Noland To: grarpamp In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-uvoeAaN4MGl2/jWF34gt" Organization: FreeBSD Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 01:16:22 -0500 Message-Id: <1239344182.1922.40.camel@balrog.2hip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_PBL, RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on gizmo.2hip.net Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help picking a video card and other related gear X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:31:10 -0000 --=-uvoeAaN4MGl2/jWF34gt Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 01:29 -0400, grarpamp wrote: > I could use some primary help with video issues. > And secondary help on the motherboard. > I've got seriously old gear and it's upgrade time :) >=20 > I'm currently running 1280x1024 on 21" and I need more desktop. > So I put together some minimum video things: >=20 > Requirements... > 1) Freebsd, amd64 [for zfs and the future of things], xorg > 2) DVI-I or DVI-D dual-link card for those 30" 2560x1600 displays > 3) Well supported, _open_source_, in the tree, video card drivers: > o I don't want to rely on the card vendor to release binary blobs. > o I don't want to end up with a useless video card when > xorg9/freebsd10 come around. So, for video you want an ATI/AMD card. r500 and below will get you all the features today. r600+ will get you EXA and Xv acceleration today, with 3d rumored to be coming soon. Dual DVD-D should be pretty easy to find... I know at least some of the Saphire boards have them. > o I don't care about the brand on the box as long as the right chips > are soldered in place. Cheap works if it gets the job done :) > 4) PCIe interface or integrated on motherboard. >=20 > Wants... > 1) Analog RGB output up to 1080p for feeding old school projectors > and backup CRT monitors. I'm betting a single card could provide > it via DVI-I or D-SUB15 with maybe an xorg mode switch? VIVO? > 2) The ability to color calibrate one or both cards via the xorg > driver would be useful. I can spyder it from a windows box so > just having the xorg knobs would suffice. Does anyone do this > under xorg? You can set rgb gamma, is that what you are referring to? > 3) A second connector off the same card for feeding a smaller > secondary monitor at the same time. > 4) Some sort of power save mode... LCD off, card idle, etc. Most of this, I'm not entirely sure about, or at least not in a single video card. But beware, multiple video cards are not currently working and I don't have an ETA on them working again right now. > I'm still shopping for motherboard and chipset. I don't think I'll > find 2560x1600 dvi dual link on an integrated chipset? Thinking > maybe AMD 790GX and AMD SB750 if FreeBSD likes it. Actually, for a single DVI display, you probably can find this without too much trouble. Intel is the likely candidate here, but I'm having trouble with Intel chips lately, so stability may be a factor. The Radeon IGPs should work fine as far as I know right now, so if you can find one of those that meets your needs, you should be in good shape. robert. > I might as well go HTPC and stick an HDTV OTA ATSC / QAM tuner in > there. And I'll eventually need to capture NTSC audio/video from > dying analog sources somehow. VOIP/webcam, mplayer, dvd upscaling, > etc. That's all 2D and largely CPU based afaik. >=20 > CPU will likely be... > amd: phenom x3 8450e, athlon x2 5050e or 5600+ > intel: core2 duo e4300, e4400, e4500 >=20 > All the integrated gig network, SATA, and USB must be in the tree > and working well. Boot from USB needs to work. Same with sound. >=20 > Though I'd like to play 3d games on freebsd, that interest does NOT > override the above fulltime workstation requirements. I can always > boot or build a windows toybox for that. So 3d support is only a > bonus. I don't think it even exists open source in tree anyways? >=20 > Just looking for hardware ideas... Thanks. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-multimedia > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-multimedia-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" --=20 Robert Noland FreeBSD --=-uvoeAaN4MGl2/jWF34gt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkne5DYACgkQM4TrQ4qfRON01QCfQNHLHlhGu6QoKPLIy2sTMag1 Bz4An3t9NX9dBlc8eJpgIp4XCqegbekN =DdLg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-uvoeAaN4MGl2/jWF34gt--