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Subject: Re: cvs commit:  ports/mail/elm+mime/scripts pre-configure
To: ache@astral.msk.su (=?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?=)
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 09:24:08 -0800 (PST)
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> 
> In message <199602230748.IAA17813@keltia.freenix.fr> Ollivier Robert
>     writes:
> 
> >It seems that Andrey A. Chernov said:
> >> ache        96/02/22 17:43:54
> >> 
> >>   Modified:    mail/elm+mime/scripts  pre-configure
> >>   Log:
> >>   Enable mailbox editing
> 
> >I do not agree  at all. This is  too  dangerous and trashing  one's mailbox
> >become too easy. Please back it out.
> 
> If you want to restrict someone, it must not be default case, but optional.
> First of all you can easily edit mailbox via any text editor in any case,
> I don't see a point to disable it _inside_elm_. Moreover, I was recently
> hitted by missing of this function dealing with semi-correct attachment
> with unknown charset, only way to fix it was mailbox editing. I think
> disabling mailbox editing not gain mailbox integrity but really stop
> experienced users.

Disabling mail box editing keeps the tech support phone at Intel from
ringing when some elm user either accidentally hits `e', or does it just
to see what it does.

Disabling mailbox editing _is_ the default for the standard elm distribution,
you have to explicitly answer the config question Y to get it turned on.

Elm is the only mail agent I know of that allows this potentially
messy operation directly from a very simple menu selection.

Running an editor on a mail box is an experienced operation, not something
that should be so easily done.

Experienced users know how to edit a mailbox without the elm `e' shortcut,
novice users tend to screw them selves over with it.


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