From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 20 12:11:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4AC2FFCF for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:11:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sender1.zohomail.com (sender1.zohomail.com [72.5.230.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F32C1E61 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:11:37 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=zapps768; d=zoho.com; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version; b=My4hnXnJHR3aLr4RQjXB6UIoXRNxNKhLDgFZmwfVI+sl8WAj5oNv87XrZFWRb1OLnUxYIBEjsSJ6 9U/3RBh6speqz4mOdbe/tAGWq/oAO+KoQ3xpKJ2peb2YNPHVp5a5 Received: from [192.168.11.5] (213.111.120.236 [213.111.120.236]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1387541483617203.81005233668589; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 04:11:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: If ports@ list continues to be used as substitute for GNATS, I'm unsubscribing From: clutton To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <52B0D149.5020308@marino.st> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 14:11:14 +0200 Message-ID: <1387541474.8658.42.camel@eva02.mbsd> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZohoMail: Ss SS_10 UW UB UW UB SGR3_1_26113_76 X-ZohoMail-Owner: <1387541474.8658.42.camel@eva02.mbsd>+zmo_0_ X-ZohoMail-Sender: 213.111.120.236 X-Zoho-Virus-Status: 2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:11:37 -0000 On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 12:45 -0500, Eitan Adler wrote: > On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Lars Engels wrote: > > Am 2013-12-17 23:33, schrieb John Marino: > > > >> Over the months I've seen several ports users copy a failure log and > >> mail it to ports@, usually without even saying "hello". I've tried to > >> discourage that behavior but other members of this mail list encourage > >> this method of bypassing writing PRs. One user even proudly boasted > >> that sending email to ports@ is faster than writing a PR so of course he > >> was going to do that instead. > >> > > > > That only shows how badly GNATS sucks and that it's much more uncomfortable > > to > > use than writing a mail. > > I totally agree that error need to be tracked in an error tracker where > > reports > > don't get lost, you have a proper history etc. pp. but GNATS is just ancient > > and > > should have died in a fire a long time ago. > > Agreed. There is active work on moving to bugzilla instead of GNATS. > I can't give a definite timeline but it should be 'soon'. > I would suggest to take a look at redmine. Not because I'm a ruby developer. Pivotal and redmine are trackers which people like most. Redmine does the same thing as a jira or a track but in more polite manner :)