From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 9 11:30:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C26C16A407 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 11:30:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottro@nyc.rr.com) Received: from ms-smtp-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.109.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC27D13C45E for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 11:30:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottro@nyc.rr.com) Received: from localhost (cpe-74-73-145-181.nyc.res.rr.com [74.73.145.181]) by ms-smtp-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l09BUIM4027176 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 06:30:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 06:30:18 -0500 From: Scott Robbins To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070109113018.GA17627@mail.scottro.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org References: <45A2F08B.1010009@FreeBSD.org> <20070109020347.GB2599@mail.scottro.net> <45A37601.3060104@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45A37601.3060104@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r804 (FreeBSD) X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: X.org (experimental) ports moving to LOCALBASE soon X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 11:30:40 -0000 On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 11:01:21AM +0000, Florent Thoumie wrote: > Scott Robbins wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 01:31:55AM +0000, Florent Thoumie wrote: > > > > > > Well, I am/was. The idea is that even if you only install the necessary > things you need, loads of ports depend on xorg-* metaports, so if you > install other ports, chances are it will bring all xorg-apps for example > (or all xorg-fonts, but not all the servers and drivers). I can't fix > all ports to only detect the X apps they need, but I can give to > experimented users the choice to make their own selection. This is an > issue I'll try to address soon (like well, this week probably, between > two Zelda Twilight Princess sessions). I think we all realize, or at least have an idea, of how much work this is, so don't feel badly about delays. > > > It might be worthwhile to put a link on the wiki to Dru's guide to > > upgrading, and maybe even my own. > > > > I think I already thanked you and everybody who reported failures (and > success sometimes) but it doesn't hurt to do it again, so thank you. > Testing takes a long time and I definitely couldn't have done everything > by myself. You have been thanking all of us publicly, yes. > > That said, while I like people testing and stuff, I definitely think > that centralizing documentation is a good thing. IMHO it would have been > a good thing to give a mention to the wiki page saying that it is the > reference to upgrade. Should your document (or Dru's) get stale, I still > can update the wiki page with new information (and mention when it's not > needed anymore, hopefully RSN). Both Dru's page and my page link to the wiki towards the very beginning of our respective articles. That almost goes without saying. > > > Haven't really planned to spend so much time on this but this is > necessary, so someone had to do it :-) The old joke, that with computers, calculate how much time you need, then triple it for an optimistic estimate. -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Buffy: Will, wait. I'm really sorry. Willow: Buff, I'm storming off. It doesn't really work if you come with me.