From owner-freebsd-eclipse@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 12 17:13:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21AE31065671 for ; Mon, 12 May 2008 17:13:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.r.ware@intel.com) Received: from mga11.intel.com (mga11.intel.com [192.55.52.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D248FC33 for ; Mon, 12 May 2008 17:13:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.r.ware@intel.com) Received: from fmsmga002.fm.intel.com ([10.253.24.26]) by fmsmga102.fm.intel.com with ESMTP; 12 May 2008 10:12:00 -0700 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,474,1204531200"; d="p7s'?scan'208";a="327370542" Received: from orsmsx335.amr.corp.intel.com (HELO orsmsx335.jf.intel.com) ([10.22.226.40]) by fmsmga002.fm.intel.com with ESMTP; 12 May 2008 10:11:45 -0700 Received: from orsmsx416.amr.corp.intel.com ([10.22.226.46]) by orsmsx335.jf.intel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 12 May 2008 10:13:46 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 10:13:44 -0700 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C8B418.DC5434E0"; micalg=SHA1 Message-ID: <3409751E7375C346A743B321A33B40D004AB76F8@orsmsx416.amr.corp.intel.com> In-Reply-To: <20080512171035.GA78992@keira.kiwi-computer.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Eclipse Plugins Thread-Index: Aci0Uxla6W7sY5nZQlmTyk2Yujvx7gAADJBg References: <3409751E7375C346A743B321A33B40D004A479A0@orsmsx416.amr.corp.intel.com> <20080512171035.GA78992@keira.kiwi-computer.com> From: "Ware, Ryan R" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 May 2008 17:13:46.0233 (UTC) FILETIME=[8981CE90:01C8B453] Cc: freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Eclipse Plugins X-BeenThere: freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD users of eclipse EDI, tools, rich client apps & ports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 17:13:47 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C8B418.DC5434E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oops. Sorry for the double negative. The second "wouldn't" should have been a "would". That should teach me to try and write something intelligible when my daughters are running around like banshees. ;-) Ryan -----Original Message----- From: Rick C. Petty [mailto:rick-freebsd@kiwi-computer.com] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 10:11 AM To: Ware, Ryan R Cc: freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Eclipse Plugins On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 12:34:15PM -0700, Ware, Ryan R wrote: > Let's get this discussion on its own thread. The questions I have are: > > * Do any of the plugin ports add significant functionality for > FreeBSD? After a quick look through all the eclipse-* ports, none of them seem to do anything FreeBSD-specific. Only eclipse-cdt has patches. CDT had a few minor tweaks that should probably be pushed upstream. Don't forget that there are other eclipse plugins not in the java directory (I only know of subclipse). > * Do we want to be in the business of maintaining ports for each > and every Eclipse plugin? Absolutely not, if it can be helped. > Regardless, one problem with porting CDT > to the latest version for 3.3.x is that they no longer keep snapshots > available via FTP. They are only available via svn. I imagine that > ports has a way of dealing with that, but I haven't seen an example yet. There are examples; just make the port have a build dependency on subversion and do a checkout on a specific rev. This may be the only way to get the source for some plugins. > Second, I wouldn't think the FreeBSD community wouldn't want to be in > the business of keeping ports for each potential Eclipse plugin. That I'm confused by your double negative. I would say that we want to minimize the number of ports and rely upon eclipse's plugin mechanism for the rest. In the past I've had troubles with their upgrades, but any problems we find should be fixed and pushed upstream. -- Rick C. 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