From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 28 10:06:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73E7D16A4CE for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 10:06:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA7A043D55 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 10:06:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j1SA6Wb15600 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 02:06:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 02:06:30 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1742881516.20050227230950@wanadoo.fr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: WRITE_DMA errors on SATA drive under 5.3-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 10:06:29 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Anthony > Atkielski > Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 2:10 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: WRITE_DMA errors on SATA drive under 5.3-RELEASE > > > Mike Tancsa writes: > > > Could be a bad sector on the drive, or bad cable. Hard to say. Try > > /usr/ports/sysutils/smartmontools/ > > > > It can read all sorts of info off the drive and help you narrow down > > what the problem might be. > > Wow! That is a very cool tool. There's even a Windows port so I can > use it on my XP machine. > > The two SATA drives show no errors. The older IDE drive > (which contains > the filesystem root) shows the stuff below. There have been over 1000 > read errors over the lifetime of the disk, but the disk had some hard > times back in December when it was in my overheated old server, so that > might account for part of that. The most recent errors look like they > might correlate with what I saw today (unfortunately, I'm not sure how > to interpret them): Rule of thumb on IDE hard drives, if they show more than a few errors with a tool like smartmon, they need to be thrown in the garbage. Heat is the number one enemy of hard drives. If this drive overheated, particularly over a long timeperiod, resistance values and semiconductor values can shift, permanently, in the electronics of the drive. So even if the heads and platters are still good, your on borrowed time with the circuit board. And since it's the circuit board that's dodgy, the drive surface isn't failing, so the problems aren't going to register with S.M.A.R.T. Despite S.M.A.R.T., the vast majority of IDE hard drives that fail, fail without warning. Ted