From owner-cvs-all Tue Jun 27 23:42:58 2000 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from piranha.amis.net (piranha.amis.net [212.18.32.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1AF937B7CD; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:42:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blaz@amis.net) Received: from titanic.medinet.si (titanic.medinet.si [212.18.32.66]) by piranha.amis.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F8E75D04; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:42:46 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:42:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Blaz Zupan X-Sender: blaz@titanic.medinet.si To: Matthew Jacob Cc: Josef Karthauser , mckusick@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep.c In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Your comments are a bit unfair. *You* haven't been running the currently > released product with Softupdates. You have excellent reasons to be concerned > because of your previous experience, but your statement of "A number of times > this year I've lost whole filesystems on an SMP..." is misleading at best. How about http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=17122 I remember hitting this on a couple of 3.4 boxes and had to turn off softupdates (those were production machines). It was not even a SMP machine. The PR is still open, and I guess still present in 4.0 (I vaguely remember hitting it on a 4.0 box as well, where I forgot to turn off softupdates). The PR is talking about the machine crashing every 1-3 days, mine was crashing more like twice per month. Since that time I don't turn on softupdates on any of my production boxes. Unfortunetlly I cannot contribute anything to the PR itself, as: 1. All the machines that exhibited the problem where production machines. 2. My home work box (running 5.0-CURRENT) doesn't exhibit the problem, probably because it is being turned off every day and there is no real load on the machine. 3. When the machines crashed, I didn't have a debug kernel running so the crashdumps would be mostly useless. Blaz Zupan, Medinet d.o.o, Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia E-mail: blaz@amis.net, Tel: +386-2-320-6320, Fax: +386-2-320-6325 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message