From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Dec 5 13:23:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA10563 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 13:23:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from unix.tfs.net (as1-p33.tfs.net [139.146.205.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA10555 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 13:23:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jbryant@unix.tfs.net) Received: (from jbryant@localhost) by unix.tfs.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) id PAA00981; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 15:23:03 -0600 (CST) From: Jim Bryant Message-Id: <199712052123.PAA00981@unix.tfs.net> Subject: Re: Telnet Root access In-Reply-To: from Brian Mitchell at "Dec 5, 97 04:15:38 pm" To: brian@firehouse.net (Brian Mitchell) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 15:23:03 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Reply-to: jbryant@unix.tfs.net X-Windows: R00LZ!@# MS-Winbl0wz DR00LZ!@# X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Mon Dec 1 15:51:40 CST 1997 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply: > On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, Jim Bryant wrote: > > > ahem... > > > > why would one wish to have the root password pass over an insecure > > network in plaintext form??? > > > > man su > > This is pretty dumb, as the password is _still_ passing over an insecure > network in plaintext form. oops... i've already clarified this in a previous posting... su under ssh... > > > > also, for most practical purposes, you should not even be using > > telnet... i suggest using ssh/sshd, because no passwords, in fact > > nothing in the entire session, is transmitted in plaintext. > > Well, some client information is transmitted in plaintext; it does that to > determine what ssh capabilities the other side has. oops... well, still nothing in the user session will be plaintext... jim -- All opinions expressed are mine, if you | "I will not be pushed, stamped, think otherwise, then go jump into turbid | briefed, debriefed, indexed, or radioactive waters and yell WAHOO !!! | numbered!" - #1, "The Prisoner" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Inet: jbryant@tfs.net AX.25: kc5vdj@wv0t.#neks.ks.usa.noam grid: EM28pw voice: KC5VDJ - 6 & 2 Meters AM/FM/SSB, 70cm FM. http://www.tfs.net/~jbryant ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ HF/6M/2M: IC-706-MkII, 2M: HTX-212, 2M: HTX-202, 70cm: HTX-404, Packet: KPC-3+