From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 28 04:44:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9EE516A4CE for ; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 04:44:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9108A43D3F for ; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 04:44:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20041228044402i9100rftage>; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 04:44:04 +0000 Message-ID: <41D0E48F.3060609@nbritton.org> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 22:43:59 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041219) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris References: <41D0E046.9040608@makeworld.com> In-Reply-To: <41D0E046.9040608@makeworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Broder_Miz?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?z=E9rable?= cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Need help *fast* X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 04:44:05 -0000 Chris wrote: > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Nikolas >>> Britton >>> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 7:08 PM >>> To: Broder Mizzérable >>> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> Subject: Re: Need help *fast* >>> >>> >>> Broder Mizzérable wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hello there.. i'm switching to FreeBSD ' now '... i did try to use the >>>> floppy installation way. but it seems like all my floppy's are 50kb to >>>> small =/ ... so i was wondering .. is it possible to use a CD ' That >>>> does already has stuffs on it but still boot it and download FTP wise >>>> .. as you would do as on the floppy installation ... i do ask this cuz >>>> i dont have any free CD's atm .. >>>> >>> >>> I'm not quite following what you mean? You tried the standard tools to >>> make the floppy's, like rawrite and dd? AND you did format these disk >>> before hand to check that they didn't have bad sectors?.... I have a >>> big >>> box of floppy's that have been siting in the closet and every time I >>> need one I have to go through 20 or so bad ones that have bad >>> sectors or >>> invalid media to find the one perfect one. floppy diskettes are junk >>> thats why we stopped using them. >>> >> >> >> No, floppy diskettes are definitely not junk, there is nothing wrong >> with the medium except that it doesen't hold enough. >> >> I used to work at a large software developer, Symantec formerly Central >> Point Software (ie: PCTools) The last floppy runs of PCTools had at >> least 20 5.25 diskettes and about 15 3.5 floppies and Central Point >> did their own duplicating. There was no way in hell that floppies >> that were anywhere near as bad as you imply could have been used for >> commercial duplication, the reject rate would have been too high. >> >> The problem today is that the floppy diskettes you buy in the >> store today are not manufactured under the high tolerances that >> they are supposed to be, and the floppy disk drives are also >> slopped together. I don't know how the commercial duplicators >> do it if any are still doing floppy runs, probably none are >> anymore. My guess is the few people still manufacturing them are >> using old ratty equipment that probably should have been retired >> years ago. >> >> Ted > > > Good Lord! PCTools!!! Now yer talking! Even back when 95 came on like > 30 diskettes... or was that OS/2? Both! :-)