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Subject: Re: xdm and gdm
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> Is this a typo?
>
> According to the Handbook, /usr/local/bin/gnome-session
> (without trailing 's') should be executed.

indeed a typo.
thank you.

>> after loggin in it just exits. no .xsession-errors is created. no idea
>> where to seek error messages at all.
>
> Maybe errors are reported to the 1st virtual terminal
> where the XDM process outputs its messages to (currently
> not running xdm, so I can't check).

there are imho nowhere.
>
> Do you have
>
> 	gdm_enable="YES"
> 	gnome_enable="YES"
>
> in /etc/rc.conf, and /proc mounted, as suggested in the Handbook?
> Maybe gdm has some "preparations" that aren't found by gnome-session
> when started autonomously. But the Handbook says it works without

gdm is fine and works. the problem is that i wasn't able to my non-gnome 
.xsession work properly with gdm at all.

at the same time i like xdm and want to use, RARELY use it to run gnome.

Do you have any data about preparations that gdm do?