From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Aug 3 22:14: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from ren.detir.qld.gov.au (ns.detir.qld.gov.au [203.46.81.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2966614D64 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 22:13:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from syssgm@detir.qld.gov.au) Received: by ren.detir.qld.gov.au; id PAA22954; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 15:11:43 +1000 (EST) Received: from ogre.detir.qld.gov.au(167.123.8.3) by ren.detir.qld.gov.au via smap (3.2) id xma022874; Wed, 4 Aug 99 15:11:25 +1000 Received: from atlas.detir.qld.gov.au (atlas.detir.qld.gov.au [167.123.8.9]) by ogre.detir.qld.gov.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA24849; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 15:11:25 +1000 (EST) Received: from nymph.detir.qld.gov.au (nymph.detir.qld.gov.au [167.123.10.10]) by atlas.detir.qld.gov.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA13784; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 15:11:00 +1000 (EST) Received: from nymph.detir.qld.gov.au (localhost.detir.qld.gov.au [127.0.0.1]) by nymph.detir.qld.gov.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA07330; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 15:11:23 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from syssgm@nymph.detir.qld.gov.au) Message-Id: <199908040511.PAA07330@nymph.detir.qld.gov.au> To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: Matthew Dillon Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Cc: syssgm@detir.qld.gov.au Subject: Re: Sitting inside, looking out... References: <199908040108.SAA17458@freeway.dcfinc.com> In-Reply-To: <199908040108.SAA17458@freeway.dcfinc.com> from "Chad R. Larson" at "Tue, 03 Aug 1999 18:08:22 -0700" Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 15:11:23 +1000 From: Stephen McKay Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday, 3rd August 1999, "Chad R. Larson" wrote: >As I recall, Matthew Dillon wrote: >> I would recommend simply having a 'FreeBSD' T-Shirt. None of this >> 'committers' or 'core' stuff. > >No, I think you missed the point. The T-shirt (or sweatshirt, or >baseball cap or whatever) should be special, easily identified as >special and available only to the group you're trying to >incent/reward. You must be unaware of the drama over Matt's commit bit, or actually, lack thereof. While I quite like the idea of a FreeBSD Committer T-shirt, I would feel strange wearing mine while Matt was denied one. Dangerous talk follows: Even though I saw it all happen (in the public lists), I don't understand how it is still unresolved. People are being too quiet or indirect about this issue, even with the current unofficial position statement. I think it's festering. Maybe it's time for a do or die, cure or death operation. A let-it-all-hang-out public slanging match, perhaps? I don't expect a vote, but I like to know what is happening. Stephen. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message