From owner-freebsd-current Sun Aug 4 18:26: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B747B37B400 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 18:25:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from colossus.namba1.com (namba10.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.63.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB77843E4A for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 18:25:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aaron@namba1.com) Received: from cable.namba1.com (namba2.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.63.41]) by colossus.namba1.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g751Pwvj021801 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 18:25:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aaron@namba1.com) Received: from [134.173.63.67] by cable.namba1.com (NTMail 5.02.0001/JI9154.18.9fe44f61) with ESMTP id uyoeaaaa for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 18:28:01 -0700 From: "Aaron Namba" To: "Daniel O'Connor" , "Andrew Kolchoogin" Cc: Subject: RE: About 5.0 and Nvidia drivers Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 18:25:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C23BE4.4CFBFC40" In-Reply-To: <1028509497.2325.1.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal X-VirusScanned: Scanned by NTMail's Virus Scanner at snark.rinet.ru Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C23BE4.4CFBFC40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually, there is an ATI card that beats a geforce 4. http://www.ati.com/products/pc/radeon9700/ Should be out by the end of the month. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Daniel O'Connor Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 6:05 PM To: Andrew Kolchoogin Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: About 5.0 and Nvidia drivers On Mon, 2002-08-05 at 00:42, Andrew Kolchoogin wrote: > > You'd be better off working with ATI or the PowerVR people. > You want to say me that there is an ATI graphics card that is more powerful > than NVidia GeForce? An ATI Radeon 8500 is quite a reasonable card - sure it will get it's ass kicked by a GF4 but lets face it, for the games you can get running under FreeBSD that need Open GL it is more than adequate. It has the advantage of having decent driver support too :) > Sorry, but FreeBSD is really good operating system. Good enough for use it > on servers. As a system programmer, I wish to have a copy of it on my home > desktop. And my son/daughter wish to play games on same desktop. > > What should I do? Change video cards every day? Whatever? Dual boot? Works for me.. > Or use ancient 16-bit NVidia drivers not capable to use even 1152x864x110 Hz? Uh? The ones that come with XFree86 4.2 don't do that? They do for me.. -- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 9A8C 569F 685A D928 5140 AE4B 319B 41F4 5D17 FDD5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C23BE4.4CFBFC40 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIFujCCAnow ggHjoAMCAQICAwf4TTANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFADCBkjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExFTATBgNVBAgTDFdl c3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTESMBAGA1UEBxMJQ2FwZSBUb3duMQ8wDQYDVQQKEwZUaGF3dGUxHTAbBgNVBAsT FENlcnRpZmljYXRlIFNlcnZpY2VzMSgwJgYDVQQDEx9QZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBSU0EgMjAw MC44LjMwMB4XDTAyMDcyNTE4MDg0N1oXDTAzMDcyNTE4MDg0N1owQjEfMB0GA1UEAxMWVGhhd3Rl IEZyZWVtYWlsIE1lbWJlcjEfMB0GCSqGSIb3DQEJARYQYWFyb25AbmFtYmExLmNvbTCBnzANBgkq hkiG9w0BAQEFAAOBjQAwgYkCgYEAuIHASXr7mhsnJ76/wCkJALF7ySQyPQ4QPenycysDfQpiQ1XP 6l5GS2VCThFMjERmDCVsxU7evL/y1Bro+W9+hufvzIVwkgAVgfHUMrcmpyYYim+N/hxPH4tAohpr GiWUIlCn+mIVEmC3qhDZlOUk+brHhbS+e3QMghqRCb53zEMCAwEAAaMtMCswGwYDVR0RBBQwEoEQ YWFyb25AbmFtYmExLmNvbTAMBgNVHRMBAf8EAjAAMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBAUAA4GBAKtLF/3fT1s8 pNaeHOKvs8eNX+298T/NfpT10acAwJHKW2iua4vr2HVn7a22zePNVgi8CzRrIClZHDEjawzQO9Ri Z/hffG/exznX7ub78ri0UsQjr3VncNC6KGqd0poQ/qdg97T5elONDlZZIdLW3qiM6x2ZeBpAHq2Z GzTcIyXjMIIDODCCAqGgAwIBAgIQZkVyt8x09c9jdkWE0C6RATANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFADCB0TEL MAkGA1UEBhMCWkExFTATBgNVBAgTDFdlc3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTESMBAGA1UEBxMJQ2FwZSBUb3duMRow GAYDVQQKExFUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZzEoMCYGA1UECxMfQ2VydGlmaWNhdGlvbiBTZXJ2aWNl cyBEaXZpc2lvbjEkMCIGA1UEAxMbVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIENBMSswKQYJKoZI hvcNAQkBFhxwZXJzb25hbC1mcmVlbWFpbEB0aGF3dGUuY29tMB4XDTAwMDgzMDAwMDAwMFoXDTA0 MDgyNzIzNTk1OVowgZIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMRUwEwYDVQQIEwxXZXN0ZXJuIENhcGUxEjAQBgNV BAcTCUNhcGUgVG93bjEPMA0GA1UEChMGVGhhd3RlMR0wGwYDVQQLExRDZXJ0aWZpY2F0ZSBTZXJ2 aWNlczEoMCYGA1UEAxMfUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgUlNBIDIwMDAuOC4zMDCBnzANBgkqhkiG 9w0BAQEFAAOBjQAwgYkCgYEA3jMypmPHCSVFPtJueCdngcXaiBmClw7jRCmKYzUqbXA8+tyu9+50 bzC8M5B/+TRxoKNtmPHDT6Jl2w36S/HW3WGl+YXNVZo1Gp2Sdagnrthy+boC9tewkd4c6avgGAOo fENCUFGHgzzwObSbVIoTh/+zm51JZgAtCYnslGvpoWkCAwEAAaNOMEwwKQYDVR0RBCIwIKQeMBwx GjAYBgNVBAMTEVByaXZhdGVMYWJlbDEtMjk3MBIGA1UdEwEB/wQIMAYBAf8CAQAwCwYDVR0PBAQD AgEGMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBAUAA4GBADGxS0dd+QFx5fVTbF151j2YwCYTYoEipxL4IpXoG0m3J3sE Obr85vIk65H6vewNKjj3UFWobPcNrUwbvAP0teuiR59sogxYjTFCCRFssBpp0SsSskBdavl50Oou Jd2K5PzbDR+dAvNa28o89kTqJmmHf0iezqWf54TYyWJirQXGMYICqjCCAqYCAQEwgZowgZIxCzAJ BgNVBAYTAlpBMRUwEwYDVQQIEwxXZXN0ZXJuIENhcGUxEjAQBgNVBAcTCUNhcGUgVG93bjEPMA0G A1UEChMGVGhhd3RlMR0wGwYDVQQLExRDZXJ0aWZpY2F0ZSBTZXJ2aWNlczEoMCYGA1UEAxMfUGVy c29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgUlNBIDIwMDAuOC4zMAIDB/hNMAkGBSsOAwIaBQCgggFlMBgGCSqGSIb3 DQEJAzELBgkqhkiG9w0BBwEwHAYJKoZIhvcNAQkFMQ8XDTAyMDgwNTAxMjUyNFowIwYJKoZIhvcN AQkEMRYEFAh3gWlg6ZAcvO7tap43mfpJHvV7MFgGCSqGSIb3DQEJDzFLMEkwCgYIKoZIhvcNAwcw DgYIKoZIhvcNAwICAgCAMAcGBSsOAwIHMA0GCCqGSIb3DQMCAgEoMAcGBSsOAwIaMAoGCCqGSIb3 DQIFMIGrBgkrBgEEAYI3EAQxgZ0wgZowgZIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMRUwEwYDVQQIEwxXZXN0ZXJu IENhcGUxEjAQBgNVBAcTCUNhcGUgVG93bjEPMA0GA1UEChMGVGhhd3RlMR0wGwYDVQQLExRDZXJ0 aWZpY2F0ZSBTZXJ2aWNlczEoMCYGA1UEAxMfUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgUlNBIDIwMDAuOC4z MAIDB/hNMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUABIGAqaZCVJQ/Umky//XzajeQ8W2XYObfebH0dErqXvEn7CNm 2Z7sz2ZQnCcZjlFidMR49QgPaCZj/ikOi0Xr39mtrK32DRey8XLMMGwCFcXKrml/UTvI/vDulO3/ 5iCCqCdXJKBvZSYD06H2c5KZcOA1AzCKEheZ5G1CbMkRj++58jcAAAAAAAA= ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C23BE4.4CFBFC40-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message